Simulated Natural Nest Incubation~Experiment #1 So it begins....

[Beekissed]

great news re the heirloom blood line trio,

now u can have all the worries of keeping it pure &maintaining /improving the good traits with each new generation

.like the rest of us that try to keep purebred lines going
.r u going to start a new thread for that,would love to follow & input if required

cheers Pete

Pete, you know my style...I've only ever done flock breeding and I'd like to do that for awhile first to see what happens and see if I can pick out individual hens that are worthy of breeding pens. What do you think about just flock breeding to improve a flock/breed for a bit before getting into the serious stuff? It kind of suits my more natural, loosy goosey style and wondered if you thought it has any merit or is it a waste of time?

I doubt I'll start a new thread on it unless it's just about flock breeding. I'm going to do some reading up and research on the efficacy of that kind of breeding program and if it can be done to improve a line or only just to improve a flock.

 

[LindaB220]

If things go right, folks, I may be starting my very first breed project this week. I'd shout it to the rafters if I could but it would just be annoying if I did it in text...

For the first time I'll be able to concentrate on a particular breed and have a heirloom blood line trio to do it with....and will be using this method to get the first chicks on the ground, if it all pans out.

I'm so happy I could just bust wide open about all that! Just have to see if it all works out first so can't say for sure it will happen until it actually does happen. It's one of those things when "If the Lord wills it" it will all happen.

Then, maybe, I'll be able to use this method on really good eggs and for a really good purpose....to develop a breed and my flock on a whole new level.

Still going with White Rocks?

 

[lazy gardener]

Re: "helping" an internally pipped chick by doing an external pip. Sally Sunshine posted a couple of awesome articles about the physiology of hatching. One of them dealt with the O2/CO2 levels in the air cell, and the build up of CO2 contributing to the chick being anoxic, causing increased muscle spasms, and because of the unique position of the neck being tucked under the wing, it results in simultaneous rather than reciprocal limb movements, which in turn, puts the chick in the perfect position of being able to jack hammer it's way out of the egg.

 

[pogmobum]

Hi everyone!! Quick question

My broody was sitting on five eggs (all set on the same day) its her first time hatching, one egg hatched day 20 it is now day 24 and nobody else has hatched. I am moving the broody and chick tomorro and will candle the remaning eggs.

Is there any hope? anyone else have this happen?

 

[Beekissed]

Still going with White Rocks?

Yes! They are the breed of my heart.

Re: "helping" an internally pipped chick by doing an external pip. Sally Sunshine posted a couple of awesome articles about the physiology of hatching. One of them dealt with the O2/CO2 levels in the air cell, and the build up of CO2 contributing to the chick being anoxic, causing increased muscle spasms, and because of the unique position of the neck being tucked under the wing, it results in simultaneous rather than reciprocal limb movements, which in turn, puts the chick in the perfect position of being able to jack hammer it's way out of the egg.

See? Just laziness on my part. I haven't gotten around to reading her whole hatching page and I should have...I just skimmed the high points and things I needed to know initially but never got back to it. I'll have to make a point of doing better research. After all, she did all that enormous work to put all that together...it's amazing!

Hi everyone!! Quick question

My broody was sitting on five eggs (all set on the same day) its her first time hatching, one egg hatched day 20 it is now day 24 and nobody else has hatched. I am moving the broody and chick tomorro and will candle the remaning eggs.

Is there any hope? anyone else have this happen?

I've never had a broody to sit that long on eggs that have not hatched....mine will usually leave those behind and start tending her chicks. It would be interesting to see what you find when you candle.

 

[foxvalleyfarm]

Re: "helping" an internally pipped chick by doing an external pip.  Sally Sunshine posted a couple of awesome articles about the physiology of hatching.  One of them dealt with the O2/CO2 levels in the air cell, and the build up of CO2 contributing to the chick being anoxic, causing increased muscle spasms, and because of the unique position of the neck being tucked under the wing, it results in simultaneous rather than reciprocal limb movements, which in turn, puts the chick in the perfect position of being able to jack hammer it's way out of the egg.

I read those and only help with a tiny hole after 24+ hours. I lost a chick with my first hatch because it couldn't get enough air

 

[pogmobum]

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I've never had a broody to sit that long on eggs that have not hatched....mine will usually leave those behind and start tending her chicks.  It would be interesting to see what you find when you candle. 
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I will let ye know tomorrow, its weird i have never had this happen with a broody before my hatch rates with them have always been 100% except for one that broke some eggs early on, i already have my incubator warming anyways just incase there is any sign of life

 

[pogmobum]

I've never had a broody to sit that long on eggs that have not hatched....mine will usually leave those behind and start tending her chicks.  It would be interesting to see what you find when you candle. 

Il make sure to try and get pics of the candling aswell to get some advice from you guys as i have never candled this late in a hatch before.

 

[Beekissed]

Il make sure to try and get pics of the candling aswell to get some advice from you guys as i have never candled this late in a hatch before.

I hope someone here can help you on that and I'm sure they can...lots of experienced hatchers on this thread helping me out. To me, near the end, it all just looks sort of...dark.

 

[ocap]

Got any pics?

I will get some pics.

the last few hours before the pips begin are the hardest, I kept thinking all the eggs were dead.