Sled dog breeding

[SternRose]

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but why would you bother? there isn't a shortage of good quality females. There is no reason to use anything but the dogs closest to perfect. The fact that you would even think of a way that she could be used speaks volumes. And it takes a LOT more than 3 generations to get rid of bad breeding. There are mistakes in the GSD breed that people have been trying for 20+ years to get rid of.

Well if she wanted to she could but I know it takes more than three i get my rabbits and dogs mixed up some times. Lol. But I agree start with a good example. Ex specially since she's a puppy mill pup. Who knows her back ground is.

 

[Starfire669]

If you had a proper stud for her yes but that's going to take at least 3breedings to fix it, but it's possible.

Cheyenne has too many serious faults to even consider breeding her. If she only had a few minor faults, like large ears and her tail, yeah could be fixed. But her ears, tail, nose, legs, height (forgot to mention that at 8 months old she is already as tall as Dawn, who is a half inch too tall herself), and her brown color all together make her not suitable for breeding at all. Her bloodline is ruined beyond repair, and breeding her would only contribute to ruining other blood lines. The fact that you would consider breeding her tells me all I need to know.

 

[SternRose]

The idea of breeding isn't simply to improve what you've got.   You need to start with a proper example of the breed and then make it better.   Not take whatever dog is in front of you and try to breed it into something better.

I know that. I've learned a lot of info from of this thread.

 

[SternRose]

Cheyenne has too many serious faults to even consider breeding her. If she only had a few minor faults, like large ears and her tail, yeah could be fixed. But her ears, tail, nose, legs, height (forgot to mention that at 8 months old she is already as tall as Dawn, who is a half inch too tall herself), and her brown color all together make her not suitable for breeding at all. Her bloodline is ruined beyond repair, and breeding her would only contribute to ruining other blood lines. The fact that you would consider breeding her tells me all I need to know.

I wouldn't breed her. I won't even buy her knowing we're she came from.

 

[Starfire669]

I'm not sure of the color inheritence in Sibs but everything else can be chalked up to generations of poor breeding practices.

In GSDs there is a sudden surgence of brindle GSDs. Yes, there were brindles in the dogs used to form the breed but brindle is a dominant color. It was very easy to breed out by simply not breeding a brindle dog. There haven't been brindles in GSDs in 100 years. Suddenly, they are all over the place. "Old Fashioned" and "It's just an original color re-emerging" and a ton of other excuses.

Personally, I'm looking at the fact that there are suddenly brindle GSDs and comparing the timing to the increase in popularity of Dutch Shepherds. Dutch Shepherds are brindle and the average Joe thinks that every long nose pointy eared dog is a German Shepherd.

Siberians come in many coat colors, but all are variations on black, white, red. You can have sable, and copper, for red based colors, grey and silver for black based coats, pure white, and the wild coloring agouti, which I already explained how to determine if a Siberian has agouti coloring. Brown is not an accepted color in Siberians coat. I researched online, and I sent Cheyennes picture to several breeders of high quality Sibes and ALL told me to spay her, cut my losses, and protect further degradation of bloodlines from breeding her. So she will stay here, with us as a pampered, spoiled pet, nothing more. We love her, and we love her wolf like markings which are striking in person. She does not need to be bred to be special to us.

 

[SternRose]

No I would not breed her.

See. I said this after you posted your question

 

[SternRose]

Siberians come in many coat colors, but all are variations on black, white, red. You can have sable, and copper, for red based colors, grey and silver for black based coats, pure white, and the wild coloring agouti, which I already explained how to determine if a Siberian has agouti coloring. Brown is not an accepted color in Siberians coat. I researched online, and I sent Cheyennes picture to several breeders of high quality Sibes and ALL told me to spay her, cut my losses, and protect further degradation of bloodlines from breeding her. So she will stay here, with us as a pampered, spoiled pet, nothing more. We love her, and we love her wolf like markings which are striking in person. She does not need to be bred to be special to us.

She is pretty, but I like my sibs to have a med body and nice and long.

 

[Starfire669]

I wouldn't breed her. I won't even buy her knowing we're she came from.

Your first response was that you would breed her with the proper stud. There is no proper stud to fix all the faults in Cheyenne, they are too numerous to fix. Breeding her would simply make more badly conformed pups available to other unscrupulous breeders to breed more bad pups. It is a never ending cycle. And it is misinformed people like you, and likeme when I first started this journey who fall prey to puppy mills and bad backyard breeders. Then believing we have a great dog because our breeder said so, we breed and sell and misinform other innocent unsuspecting people. And the cycle continues.

So my last question to you is, which do you want to be? An educated, concerned, and serious breeder? Or another backyard breeder simply breeding what they own to make a buck or just because you have a male and female pair?

I choose to be a knowledgable breeder who can educate buyers about my breed. I can show them Cheyenne as an example of bad breeding, and Phantom and Dawn as examples of good breeding and explan why this is so. I will make the most out of my soft hearted purchase of a puppy mill dog and TEACH people, not swindle them or lie to them.

 

[Starfire669]

She is pretty, but I like my sibs to have a med body and nice and long.

Then you would love Cheyenne. She is medium body, long in the spine like a proper Siberian, and she has legs like a running hound. Cheyenne can run fast and long, she has a well muscled neck and thighs, and she can turn corners effortlessly. I love watching her and my other Sibes really let loose and run. They glide effortlessly over the ground so that they appear to be floating rather than running. But Cheyenne for all her speed, agility, and stamina, bounces up and down when she runs. Phantom, Dawn, and Sasha do not bounce when running, their body stays at the same height when stretched out, this conserves energy when running. Part of the AKC standards for Siberians is gaiting. A Sibe should move smooth and effortlessly, with no bounce or extra movement. It is yet another way to tell a well bred dog from a badly bred one.

 

[SternRose]

Go look again cuz you have it out of order and if I wanted to be a back yard breeder would I have started this thread asking RESONSBLE questions? No I don't think so, oveously I want to be a responsible breeder. Would a back yard breeder want to be a vet?