Sled dog breeding

i was just listing what people use the dogs for, i don't agree that greyhounds should be a sled dog or that sibs should be freight dogs. Greyhounds are used for sprint in warm areas not snow. Sibs, personally should be used for 1-2 day distance races but now a long 10 day race like the Iditarod. i also agree she needs to do research into the type of mushing she will be doing before buying dogs(which is where the mentor helps). Also Pitbulls are used in weight events.
You don't want thin bones for mushing , you do have a point there.


I Siberian can do the Iditarod if it's in good condition and the musher knows how to watch his team, but this is true for any sled dog. I see no reason not to run a Sibe team in distance races, it's what they were created for. But the breeder, handler and musher need experience and knowledge of the breed. They would also need to understand that Alaskan Huskies, bred from Siberians and crossed with greyhounds, malamutes, and many other dogs are probably going to be faster because of this.

Also Pitts do weight pulling at a walk or trot over very short distances. We are talking pulling over a distance of feet, not miles here, huge difference. The neighbor's Pitt I mentioned is training for weight pulling. You would not want to make that dog run all day pulling weight, it would break down. The Pitt is a very strong dog, is game enough and loyal enough to try, but it would hurt itself in the process. The pitbull is not a sled dog and should never be considered as such. I have a dog that would do anything I asked, just to make me happy. But as his owner it's my job to protect him from doing things that could injure him. He is fast, lean, very agile, smart, but even though he can outrun my Siberians in a sprint, I would never race or sled him. He has way too much up and down bouncing when running and gets tired way before the Siberians because of all the energy he wastes. This is yet another consideration before buying sled dogs. Some people would run him in harness, I would not.
 
Another thing that can be great assistance to the OP is looking to see if there is a stewards club in the area. A steward helps the judges in conformation, obedience, and agility competition. Stewards also get paid for their time. I am joining a stewards club as soon as they have their next training clases, which costs $50 in my area. I will be required to steward at 10 shows annually, 5 of which must be outside my home city. A good steward can be paid as much as $15 an hour, so you can easily supply your parents with gas money. This might also be an option to raise money for the purchase of a dog in the future. If you decide to see if there is a stewards club in your area and you join, ask to be assigned to either the northern or working dogs rings. Down here Siberians, Samoyeds, and Malamutes are classed as northern for competition, but I think up north they may be classed as working dogs. So find out and try to work at that ring. Ask questions, after the competition. Study the dogs, compare them to their breed standards. This will teach you a lot, and provide an great foundation for when you do get your first sled dog. Also, doing all this research in breed history, conformation, and sledding would show your parents how much this means to you.

It would be a win/win for you. Getting a job as a steward will not only further your own knowledge about breeds and conformation, it will impress your parents and give you some money to put away for that first, special dog you want. 3 very nice reasons to at least consider stewarding. And it doesn't have to be AKC, check for UKC clubs and events too.
 
I Siberian can do the Iditarod if it's in good condition and the musher knows how to watch his team, but this is true for any sled dog. I see no reason not to run a Sibe team in distance races, it's what they were created for. But the breeder, handler and musher need experience and knowledge of the breed. They would also need to understand that Alaskan Huskies, bred from Siberians and crossed with greyhounds, malamutes, and many other dogs are probably going to be faster because of this.

Also Pitts do weight pulling at a walk or trot over very short distances. We are talking pulling over a distance of feet, not miles here, huge difference. The neighbor's Pitt I mentioned is training for weight pulling. You would not want to make that dog run all day pulling weight, it would break down. The Pitt is a very strong dog, is game enough and loyal enough to try, but it would hurt itself in the process. The pitbull is not a sled dog and should never be considered as such. I have a dog that would do anything I asked, just to make me happy. But as his owner it's my job to protect him from doing things that could injure him. He is fast, lean, very agile, smart, but even though he can outrun my Siberians in a sprint, I would never race or sled him. He has way too much up and down bouncing when running and gets tired way before the Siberians because of all the energy he wastes. This is yet another consideration before buying sled dogs. Some people would run him in harness, I would not.

i never said not to do distance with Siberians, I'm actually planing to add a pair to my team and I would like to breed a sib with one of my Alaskans in the furture. i wouldn't do Iditarod cause the sleds are often really heavy because of all the gear and food. You have a point that not all dogs can or should mush, which is why you need to research the kind of mushing you do to the right breed(s). Like i said before, you want a dog with a smooth trot, the best way to describe how a dog should run or trot would be to say "like a show dog" It should look like the dog is "floating" kind. you have a point, a dog with a lot of bounce in its step could hurt it's back and uses up to much energy.
 
My dads hurting bad this time, I don't know if I'll be raising sled dogs for a few more years.
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i will pray for you and your family
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i will pray for you and your family :hugs

Thanks, he's got a bludging disk, for a year now. This morning he couldn't get in he's truck, so he tried a few things and ended up geting one leg cought in the steering wheel and the other one hanging out the truck. Then he went to the doc and the doc scrude up and made my dad start crying in pain( it takes a LOT to make him cry[hes got pride]) so know he can't walk cuz one legs to stiff, so he's going to work tomarrow( so we get the $$ for bills) and I hope he gets better soon. He's on 5 deferent pain killers.
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he's only 45 years old and he's worst off than my 70+ yr old grand pa.
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HE WILL GET BETTER! But I'm real worried cuz mom started cry when she told me all this! But HE WILL GET BETTER!
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I know plenty of performance dog breeders. At least one person for almost every person out there. I also know how to use google and research what the good breeders in a sport are doing - the successful ones who are winning competitions and selling dogs that others win with. The things I posted are a constant in every venue of breeding. It takes healthy dogs to work. Healthy dogs cost money. People who are looking to seriously compete aren't looking to skimp on dogs. The average going rate for sled dogs is over $1000. Proven dogs can sell for many times that. The average going rate for poorly bred dogs that are no better quality than you can get from the shelter is $200-$500 depending on the area. We're not dissing anyone, we're stating facts. It's not "show dog" vs "working" It's healthy dogs vs "This is a boy; this is a girl. Let's make puppies"
 
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we don't have stewarding clubs locally. I don't even know any club within several hundred miles that uses paid stewards. Stewarding in most areas is done by volunteer members of the host club. I know that Kansas City, as far as I know, uses volunteers. Even unpaid, it's a great way to learn a LOT about dogs and handling.
 
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we don't have stewarding clubs locally. I don't even know any club within several hundred miles that uses paid stewards. Stewarding in most areas is done by volunteer members of the host club. I know that Kansas City, as far as I know, uses volunteers. Even unpaid, it's a great way to learn a LOT about dogs and handling.
In my state, we have stewards clubs that are hired for the event. The officers for the stewards club are also running and participating in the conformation classes I joined last night, which are much, much better than the previous classes I was attending. Maybe it varies by state. I know tha here the stewards who can do conformation, obedience, and aglility are the first hired to work an event. It costs $50 to take the class to be able to do all 3 and then you steward 3 shows as a novice. After that you are able to steward and be paid for stewarding. To make it even better, the club encourages you to participate in the show. So they don't assign you to work a ring when your group is coming up so that you can get your dog ready. After your competition, you go back to stewarding. I have already spoken to our clubs officers and will get the paperwork to fill out in September, this is our busy month so all classes are canceled since all the members are either in events in Texas or stewarding the events. Regardless of getting paid or not, joining a club and going to events is a great way to learn. The handlers and stewards happily answer questions after their event has past.
 
Thanks, he's got a bludging disk, for a year now. This morning he couldn't get in he's truck, so he tried a few things and ended up geting one leg cought in the steering wheel and the other one hanging out the truck. Then he went to the doc and the doc scrude up and made my dad start crying in pain( it takes a LOT to make him cry[hes got pride]) so know he can't walk cuz one legs to stiff, so he's going to work tomarrow( so we get the $$ for bills) and I hope he gets better soon. He's on 5 deferent pain killers.
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he's only 45 years old and he's worst off than my 70+ yr old grand pa.
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HE WILL GET BETTER! But I'm real worried cuz mom started cry when she told me all this! But HE WILL GET BETTER!
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I hope your dad feels better soon. I know how awful a major back injury is, I have metal rods holding my spine together. And all those pain killers and medicines don't do anything but take the edge off, and that's on a good day. Plus the meds can lead to secondary complications such as bleeding ulcers. But, there are exercises and stretches which can help. Your dad should see a physical therapist, who specializes in back injuries, who can give him stuff to do to strengthen the muscles. That will help to reduce pain. It can even help in cases of pinched nerves, or minor permanent nerve damage, which I also have. But the first few times you do the exercises the pain is excruciating, you have to encourage your dad to keep going. They will help over time and make a difference.

I hope me makes a speedy recovery and is back on his feet soon! :fl
 
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