SOLD! Aseel or Cornish Bantam?

[HallFamilyFarm]

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I agree

I emailed several judges to get their honest opinion. One emailed back that it looked like.....

DUMPLINS!

In any case, he is for sale at https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=3945427#p3945427

 

[Illia]

Man are you just teasing me.

I would love to snatch that beaut up if I had a proper mate for it. . . . And if it were bigger. And if I lived closer.

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

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No teasing. We have brooders nearly full, about 50 more chicks on order; two incubators full......we just don't have room for him.

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

Emailed several judges. Here are a few of their responces. Will give them a number and keep their names confidential.

My email to the judges:

Am in need of an "official" opinion of what this bird is. It was in the silent auction at the Eldorado show. Am sending this to several judges so I can compare. Really don't want to keep it nor raise from it. I have it listed for sale, but need to better describe it. The breeder said it is a Barred Aseel and has responded to my inquiry with:

•To give you a little history, several years ago I set out to produce a Barred Cornish for a dear friend. I bred a Dark Cornish roo to a Crele Old English hen. My first result was one poor colored crele roo that looked more aseel than cornish. Before I could produce the Barred my friend died. I decided to continue, only breed for aseel instead. I bred this roo to a BBR Aseel pullet. I got two crele pullets and a couple more poor colored crele roos. I bred the two pullets to one of the roos and got four very nice crele roos and several nice crele pullets. I have since bred them several times to aseel hens, both BBR and black. The black produces some nice creles and also barred. I think this one is probably from a crele out of black. If you will look at his legs you can tell he is Aseel. His legs are square instead of round like a cornish. Also his stance is upright and balanced unlike a Cornish which is more flat and somewhat ungainly.

Forrest Buford observed it at the show and said it was a Cornish. The breeder interjected it is an Aseel. The cost was not much, a small donation to the show. I just can't bring myself to eat a nice looking bird.(We had BBQ Buff Orpington last night!) Unless, he is worthless in any breeding program. Please feel free to give your personal opinion. What is he? Do I sell him? Breed him with a similar hen? Eat him. I want your honest opinion. Thanks.

Judge #1

Without looking at it, I don't know. Maybe dumplings would be good.

Good luck with him

Judge #2

To me it looks like a barred cornish, not a bad one at that. It has a head of a cornish, and body time of that breed and correct leg coloring for a cornish.


Hope this helps,

Judge #3

What you have here is a cross-bred bantam chicken. He neither looks totally Asil since he isn’t upright enough and carries his tail too high nor does he look like a Cornish since he has way too much tail feather. He carries his wings way to low which is probably caused by the OE in his background. If you really want a project since he is best described as a dark Crele color I guess you could make Crele Asil but why? You might also try to go to Cornish to make Barred but you have years of work to get decent type. I would say the sensible thing is noodles. As far as selling just explain what he is and show his picture. Suggest they do whatever they want with him. He is years away from anything but a cross-bred chicken.

Judge #4

LOL, looks like an eater to me. Aseel is closer to breed character than cornish but, color and type follows no standard to qualify it as either and would be DQ'd or shown as a non-standard.

Judge #5

He has more tendencies to be like a Cornish rather than an Aseel. Because of the hard feather type it would probably be more like a cuckoo rather than barred and you will probably not ever get good barring on a Cornish. Unless you have or know someone that has a specific breeding project in mind he would probably be not much use keeping other than interesting.

Judge #6

Jim as I see it not enough tail and not erect enough for a Aseel but if you want to continue I would buy some Ko Shamo bantams they would make them more erect and you would have in a few years a nice Ko Shamo bantams check Feathersite and look up Ko Shamo I hope THAT might be some help see ya,

Judge #7

heart shaped body- pea comb - broad skull- tightly feathered- needs to have a pearl eye but most dont. honest a very badly barred cornish. forrest was right. it would take a long time tobreed better barring.

the cornish needs one more characteristic and that is a pronounced hooked beak. its very obvious if you see one with it.

Note: It is amazing at the difference of opinion from seven judges. ​

 

[HallFamilyFarm]

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I took this bird to Bebee yesterday....no takers. when I got home I left the 5 hole rabbit cage in my front yard on a pallet. Haven't put a forsale sign up yet. Have several "cull" birds out there. A young family just drove up and asked if the chickens were for sale.

After looking at several breeds, they chose this one for their new flock rooster. he now has a mixed flock of large fowl barreds, Reds and blacks. He will be free ranging with them. If a hen can hide a nest, he will pass on his genes to another generation.