SOS VENT PROLAPSE

[lmw411]

Vetrx is essentially Vicks vapor rub... won't do much especially for prolapse.

I do see your update...

Sorry she isn't improving.

I'm sorry, not Vetrx... It's nutridrench.
She just laid an egg and there's some blood on the shavings and on her butt feathers. Poor thing. When she doesn't strain she seems to be in no pain at all. Eager to escape and be outside.

 

[lmw411]

Can you post some photos of the prolapse?

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Here is the situation right now. Just laid an egg. I took her to soak not too long before this happened. I don't have a second pair of hands around at home right now so I couldn't debride much at all. Did get some poop off (before she laid) and vaselined everything. Thats more poop, the yellow/white stuff. At least I hope it's just poop. She's eating some lettuce now and had a handful of starter feed. Eager to escape an be a normal chicken. Doesn't seem to be in pain at all.

It's a busy day here so I haven't been able to be a super chicken mom. I feel so bad. We plan to do a full cleaning/debridement tonight and put it back in again. hopefully it'll stay. She *shouldn't* lay tomorrow ideally because I'm keeping the cage dark and minimal food/ nutridrench in water. She will eat some tums too.

 

[Eggcessive]

It can take about 3 days for laying to stop once you keep them in darkness for 16 hours a day. Glad that you were finally able to get the prolapse back in last night—that is an accomplishment. Hopefully, it will stay in soon as the swelling goes down. The yellow could be yellow colored urates from a liver problem, or there could be some egg matter in the droppings. Glad that she is pooping.

 

[lmw411]

She bleeds some with every strain... should I be concerned? I'm thinking we will have to make the decision to cull tomorrow. I love this bird but it's hard watching her in pain when she strains and now that she is bleeding some I think it's something I may need to consider unless it is normal.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I too would be concerned about the bleeding with every strain. Each of us have our own thoughts about that.
I agree, you should be thinking about making a decision about her soon, give yourself some time to consider everything.
Continue to treat her the best you can and see how it goes. I'm sorry, I sometimes wish these things were easier to fix. Not every prolapse can be fixed either. I have been in a similar situation with one of my pullets. After a couple of days, it was clear that the prolapse was not fixable and she was bleeding as well, so I made the decision to let her go.

 

[cottagecheese]

Oh, that doesn't look too good.

My Bridget was cured by coconut oil for her first three prolapses. For number four, coconut oil did nothing the first 24 hrs. The dumb thing managed to jump out of my hands as I was examining her and landed straddling a fence and hitting herself right in her prolapse. And there was some blood.

Now if there are oaks where you live and you own a coffee mill (to grind the bark) and you are willing to do this... she'll recover.

I was trying to help a young person with a turkey the other day, but that hen had underlying problems (which were not mentioned at the beginning of the thread), and young people in general have short attention spans. But if you click on my name and look at my messages in the turkey prolapse thread, that should help you make a decision.

They remain active, with good appetite... Mine kept laying too. I had to keep her in total darkness for 20+ hrs (out of 24). Short breaks for eating and drinking while she was in the dark. If all this started only yesterday and you kept it moist, it doesn't need debriding. There's nothing dead there, just some poop in my opinion.

 

[lmw411]

I think the weirdest part of the situation is that we can get it back in to stay for a bit, but she pushes it out. I have no clue why! During tonight's cleaning she pushed so hard an unshelled egg came out. Maybe that means she wont lay for a bit longer.

 

[Eggcessive]

Sorry that she is having the continued problems and laid a shell-less egg. Have you given any calcium (Caltrate or Tums) to her? Low calcium levels can be a cause of shell-less eggs and also can cause a prolapse. I would give her one now and 1/2 tablet every day until after she stops laying. Whatever you feel like doing tomorrow as far as culling or not, is good. In the past, most chicken keepers culled and butchered chickens who suffered from prolapse. She might get better once she stops laying, but there is no guarantee.

 

[lmw411]

Sorry that she is having the continued problems and laid a shell-less egg. Have you given any calcium (Caltrate or Tums) to her? Low calcium levels can be a cause of shell-less eggs and also can cause a prolapse. I would give her one now and 1/2 tablet every day until after she stops laying. Whatever you feel like doing tomorrow as far as culling or not, is good. In the past, most chicken keepers culled and butchered chickens who suffered from prolapse. She might get better once she stops laying, but there is no guarantee.

I'm not sure this is Calcium related. She had laid a good egg already today around 1pm. She was bathed and basically shot out the shell-less egg while soaking (around 7:30pm). So I think it just wasn't done developing and would have been laid normal tomorrow?

 

[AmyJane725]

Those in the know, is the prolapse perhaps caused by Vent Gleet? (The white/clear bad smelling stuff is reminding me of what happened to Peep, the poor turkey hen on the thread cottagecheese is talking about) and I've been wondering if she had vent gleet, and the inflammation eventually caused the prolapse.