Sour Crop??

[DuckYouMan]

DE definitely works for goats. Here is a similar recipe used for it.
https://www.weedemandreap.com/natural-goat-dewormer/

I've been using it since the first recommendation from a vet over 30 years ago. It definitely works. The mixed reviews are most likely from people that feed way too much at once which can cause it to be inhaled where it does damage.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

From what I've heard on BYC, DE becomes inactive when it is wet, so doesn't work inside the chickens. I can't vouch for how well it works outside, but I do know that there is some risk of respiratory problems because it is dusty. That's what I've picked up from BYC, not personal experience.

If it's parasites then the colloidal silver in the water might help. In case of worms...

Protect them with Diatomaceous Earth. When lightly rubbed into their coats or dusted on their premises, it is very effective against fleas, ticks, lice, and other pests on pet dogs, cats, and birds. It can also be used as an organic wormer and will kill any worms or parasites the pets may have .

Put it in a dust bath for her or put some in her feed.

Oh boy...this is NOT true.

Which part. Outside opinions are always welcome, but these as preventative measures and assistance in recovery have always worked for me.

Here are some resources for the info.

https://www.raising-happy-chickens.com/diatomaceous-earth.html#:~:text=3.,beneficial to their egg production.


studies on silver and parasites

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3826293/#B26

I mean it works on my goats for worms and their insides are pretty wet too so I'm not sure how accurate that is.

You're right. The dust can be hazardous in large amounts if inhaled. I would never put a chick in a bath made of nothing but DE. The way it works is by dehydrating and actually physically killing worms. It's like razors for tiny organisms.

You're not wrong, goat insides are definitely pretty wet. I'm glad that it works for you! I have a bag of it that I've never used because I"m nervous about the mixed reviews it gets.

DE definitely works for goats. Here is a similar recipe used for it.
https://www.weedemandreap.com/natural-goat-dewormer/

I've been using it since the first recommendation from a vet over 30 years ago. It definitely works. The mixed reviews are most likely from people that feed way too much at once which can cause it to be inhaled where it does damage.

Ya'll want to take all this somewhere else so the OP's ER thread doesn't turn into long debate and chat thread?

 

[casportpony]

@Wyorp Rock has given you very good advice.

 

[black_cat]

Really sorry for hijacking! I'll leave it alone now, and will make sure to start another thread to continue it if needed.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Really sorry for hijacking! I'll leave it alone now, and will make sure to start another thread to continue it if needed.

A new thread with open debate would be great! Just tag in the others for an invite and carry on

 

[DuckYouMan]

Most definitely! We can all throw in the studies we find as well and see what we can debunk and confirm. Would be interesting to say the least!


Back to the chick at hand. When she's eating. Are you able to feel a good full crop? Are you able to actually weigh her? Maybe take note for the next few days of her actual weight.

If she's already underweight when you started the Eggs then its going to be a few days for that weight to come back noticeably unless you're weighing her. Then you can tell for sure if she's losing weight while being fed full meals or not.

 

[thepick4uchicks]

DE definitely works for goats. Here is a similar recipe used for it.
https://www.weedemandreap.com/natural-goat-dewormer/

I've been using it since the first recommendation from a vet over 30 years ago. It definitely works. The mixed reviews are most likely from people that feed way too much at once which can cause it to be inhaled where it does damage.

I mix it with potting soil and some of their shavings and some ash. That way their is some potential to kill the parasites while they dust bathe but I don’t mix the concoction with the girls around and once it together and blended it doesn’t seem to be as cloudy when they dust bathe in it and in my recipe it isn’t over done or too abundant in DE. I’m careful with their health. I use it to kill fire ants in their run and learned today that permethrin is safe also. We are over run with them and anything that works safely and quickly for them I need. The heat and bugs this summer has been brutal in MS. We have our norms that we are used to and know to tolerate and just grunt and keep going but this year has been awful enough to mention. Actually I am afraid that I may lose my lead pullet. That sounds funny. Lead pullet! Lol! They are 16 weeks today! She is the head honcho pullet in charge of nine that don’t free range but they do have a huge run and coop for her to prevail over all nine and a big stump, and two little white dogs of ours that let her peck them on the nose just for fun still. She has been one to lay down more and dust bathe in the cool dirt a great deal more than the others and I thought it was because she was a lot more intelligent and adept at doing things outside at this point. I just put them in their run about 7 weeks ago around the second week of July. The heat indices have averaged about 108 for July and sometimes higher and August indices was around 110 with the humidity being close to 100% several days. Today she didn’t eat much at all. I checked her crop today. No sour crop but an empty one for sure. I put a cabbage up for tether ball and the other chicks had a blast all day but I don’t think she ever touched it a time. I came into the coop at bedtime and felt her up pretty good everywhere and she felt much thinner than I thought she would feel from just a day with no eating so I have been missing something. She has not been eating her food more often than not. She has always eaten treats by that I mean greens or grass clippings or a few meal worms ever so often or veggies out of the garden but I never realized that just a day or so she would feel that thin. I’m afraid of what’s I will find in the morning. She just wouldn’t do anything today. She could jump and roost okay but she didn’t have much energy. Thank y’all for listening.

 

[Coturnix Quail]

You could de-worm her too. With a bird that age that is declining, hasn't laid eggs in a long time and has crop issues....I would try it. De-worming would be part of supportive care, if they have something else going on, then it's harder for them to bear a worm load.

Safeguard (Fenbendazole) will be the easiest to find. Look for Safeguard liquid goat wormer. Dose her 0.23ml per pound of weight orally once a day for 5 days. This will take care of most worms that chickens have.

I would also begin treating the crop issue as well. You can do both.

Thank you, the treatment is only for 5 days? I’ll start with both as soon as i can.

Most definitely! We can all throw in the studies we find as well and see what we can debunk and confirm. Would be interesting to say the least!


Back to the chick at hand. When she's eating. Are you able to feel a good full crop? Are you able to actually weigh her? Maybe take note for the next few days of her actual weight.

If she's already underweight when you started the Eggs then its going to be a few days for that weight to come back noticeably unless you're weighing her. Then you can tell for sure if she's losing weight while being fed full meals or not.

I haven’t felt her crop in a bit, tomorrow when i bring her egg i will feel it after she’s finished eating. I will start weighing her as well, although her health does seem to be slightly improving, which is promising.


Thank you all for the input, it’s greatly appreciated. Hopefully i can get her back to her normal self soon.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Thank you, the treatment is only for 5 days? I’ll start with both as soon as i can.

For Safeguard, yes the treatment is for 5 days in a row.
Treating Sour Crop treatment with yeast medication is 2X a day for 7 days.

 

[Coturnix Quail]

Look for Safeguard liquid g Dose her 0.23ml per pound of weight orally once a day for 5 days.

This might seem like a dumb question, but to give her the medication orally, I’ve seen people give little drops towards the front of the side of the beak, and let them swallow naturally to prevent aspiration, is that ok?