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spalding or pied ?????

Discussion in 'Peafowl' started by mettymet, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. mettymet

    mettymet Out Of The Brooder

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    hi ,,

    i bought a pair of peacocks and i'm trying to figure out exactly what kind ,,check out the picture
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  2. new 2 pfowl

    new 2 pfowl Overrun With Chickens

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    The boy is definitely pied, doesn't look spalding to me but I'm not that familiar with spalding variations.
    The girl is not 100% IB but it's hard to see her in this picture.

    *Maybe it would be easier if we could see a picture of them in their pen?
     
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  3. Angelak

    Angelak Chillin' With My Peeps

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    really pied?thought that was a spalding peacock n the other looks like a java
     
  4. new 2 pfowl

    new 2 pfowl Overrun With Chickens

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    Pied peas have white patches, which are clearly evident on this boy!
    Spalding peas = have some green blood in their lineage.
    Not sure what you mean by "java": if you mean pure green, these birds are definitely not green (do a search and you'll see how distinctive they look!).

    Below is some basic pea genetics information courtesy of the Peafowl Stickies:

    Genetics:
    There are two ways to describe how your peafowl looks- Color and Pattern. These are two very different descriptions. The best way to describe the difference is that pattern is the way the color is displayed and distributed. Several patterns can be present in a bird, but only one color. There are only 2 species of peafowl: The Indian peafowl (Pavo Cristatus) and the green peafowl (Pavo Muticus). All others are subspecies of the greens or color mutations of the Indian peafowl.

    Colors:
    Blue, Cameo, White, Charcoal, Purple, Bronze, Peach, Opal, Midnight, Jade, Taupe, Sonjas Violeta
    The above are or are color mutations of the Indian peafowl.
    Green colored peafowl belong to the muticus species (see below), or are hybrids between muticus and the India blues.

    Patterns:
    Patterns apply only to peafowl descended from the India blue. Patterns can apply to some spaldings (ie, emerald pied spalding) despite their Green blood because they also have India blue blood.

    Barred wing- Wings are brown/tan and black 'striped'.
    Solid wing (also known as Black Shoulder and abbreviated as BS)- Where the barring is on a barred wing bird will be the solid color of the rest of the bird. In an India Blue, it will display black/blue/green but can be other colors for other color birds.
    Pied- White patches on body (result of leucism genes).
    White eye- The black eye of the tail feathers will be white (or have white spots). Some birds can be white-eye without displaying white eyes.
    Silver pied- Body looks white with patches of color.

    The greens are the second species of peafowl. There are three sub-species:
    Muticus-Muticus (Java)
    Muticus-Imperator (Indo-Chinese)
    Muticus-Specifier (Burmese)

    *eta:
    Here is a picture of a Java Green courtesy of Craig Hopkins' website (http://www.hopkinslivestock.com/)
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  5. Angelak

    Angelak Chillin' With My Peeps

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    New 2 pfowl thanks im still learning,so guess I should not have posted my guess.thanks for sharing the info.
     
  6. new 2 pfowl

    new 2 pfowl Overrun With Chickens

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    Guessing is great! It's the most fun we have here! [​IMG]
    That's why it's great that you've been posting pictures of your chicks for some guesses from the experts.
    I wouldn't even try to guess about your chicks - they are very mysterious!
    They may need to be older before they can be ID'd?
     
  7. Angelak

    Angelak Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Doesnt matter to me really just hoping for hens,just loved the other colors n got a great deal
     
  8. 3BirdGirlz

    3BirdGirlz Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Your pair look like mine:) My India blue pied male and female just turned one. My boy lost his baby train and now I'm seeing little eye feathers growing! I'll have to get a picture of that. Except I think yours may be blackshoulder. My male has the barred wings. [​IMG]
     
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  9. BYC-user-174785

    BYC-user-174785 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    The male is an India Blue Blackshoulder Pied peacock. I cannot tell from the picture if he has any green blood in him. The hen appears to be an India Blue peahen. Congrats and [​IMG]!!!

    For your reference here is an India Blue peahen (taken from Sid's website texaspeafowl.com):
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    And here is a green peahen in the wild (photo taken by Friedrich Esser, and look at some other pictures here: https://www.facebook.com/friedrich....11337510663.1073741832.100000954045696&type=3)
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Joe.G

    Joe.G Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I'd Have to agree with Blue Creek, The Male appears to be a IB Black Shoulder Pied bird, the Female is hard to see int he Picture, I like the Male a lot could you post more pictures. The Female Prob is a IB Female that could be split to something, More pictures would help.
     

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