SSS is a disgusting practice and people need to stop encouraging it.

[Smileybans]

I believe in prevention for most things, not just chicken keeping. I’ve only been keeping chickens for six months, most of which have been winter, so I have no real experience with predators yet. But my only role model and information, before joining here, for chicken keeping was my sister. And she brags about how she shot a whole family of raccoons who kept getting into her chicken coop. Well her coop and run aren’t secure like I learned they should be. The raccoons could literally just walk in the door and take what they wanted. I honestly thought it was what everyone did. Just left the coop and run open and shot whatever came their way. Well then I joined here and learned there are multiple ways to handle a situation. We also live in NYS and this state has super strict laws on what you can and cannot shoot and when. Like its legal to shoot raccoons as long as you do it at a certain time and then bury the body. Even removing things from your property is strictly regulated. If you follow the laws that is. I believe everyones situation is different. My sister might have shot the raccoons because she felt she had no choice. Or she was uneducated about how to house chickens. I know i was before joining this community.

 

[arwoon]

I agree with @tripletfeb.


I will not kill endangered animals/birds....but if something like a raccoon or coyote is attacking my girls, I will not hesitate to kill it if I can.

I did not know Racoons are endangered

 

[RosemaryDuck]

I believe in prevention for most things, not just chicken keeping. I’ve only been keeping chickens for six months, most of which have been winter, so I have no real experience with predators yet. But my only role model and information, before joining here, for chicken keeping was my sister. And she brags about how she shot a whole family of raccoons who kept getting into her chicken coop. Well her coop and run aren’t secure like I learned they should be. The raccoons could literally just walk in the door and take what they wanted. I honestly thought it was what everyone did. Just left the coop and run open and shot whatever came their way. Well then I joined here and learned there are multiple ways to handle a situation. We also live in NYS and this state has super strict laws on what you can and cannot shoot and when. Like its legal to shoot raccoons as long as you do it at a certain time and then bury the body. Even removing things from your property is strictly regulated. If you follow the laws that is. I believe everyones situation is different. My sister might have shot the raccoons because she felt she had no choice. Or she was uneducated about how to house chickens. I know i was before joining this community.

Yes but unfortunately in this case 'SSS' isn't uneducated people. It's people knowingly (and encouraging) illegal killings of these animals. A raccoon is not protected, as their population is in no danger of going down right now. But I do agree that regular predators shouldn't be massacred either. We have to learn to live with the wildlife we have. We're building houses and developments further and further into their land. They have nowhere to go. Their food sources are being demolished. It's really awful, and sooner rather then later we'll be dealing with the consequences.

 

[WindingRoad]

I've been on this site off an on for years (first as a guest, now with a profile) and frequently I've seen people suggest to 'SSS' (Shoot, shovel, shut up) a predator or a bird of prey that is federally protected. I don't care if this subject is 'taboo' or 'hush hush'. I'd like attention brought to just how disgusting it is.

I don't care if you're protecting your farm animals or not. I love my animals above anything else, but if a predator takes one it's /my/ fault for not giving them a secure enough run. I don't shoot a /federally/ protected or endangered animal and throw it in a hole and pat myself on the back.

Killing a protected, endangered or critically endangered predator or bird of prey is a federal crime. You can receive over $5k in fines and a lengthy jail sentence. And I really hope people doing this, or that have done this are caught and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. We are rapidly losing wildlife to humanity and it disgusts me to see anyone support SSS.

So if a coyote attacked your 3 year old what would you do? I haven't seen (m)any posts about shooting a bird of prey here.

 

[RosemaryDuck]

So if a coyote attacked your 3 year old what would you do? I haven't seen (m)any posts about shooting a bird of prey here.

Did you read my post? This is about endangered and protected species. Coyotes are neither. I also have no children.

 

[WindingRoad]

Yes but unfortunately in this case 'SSS' isn't uneducated people. It's people knowingly (and encouraging) illegal killings of these animals. A raccoon is not protected, as their population is in no danger of going down right now. But I do agree that regular predators shouldn't be massacred either. We have to learn to live with the wildlife we have. We're building houses and developments further and further into their land. They have nowhere to go. Their food sources are being demolished. It's really awful, and sooner rather then later we'll be dealing with the consequences.

Are you off grid?

 

[WindingRoad]

Did you read my post? This is about endangered and protected species. Coyotes are neither. I also have no children.

Oh you added that to bolster your argues,ent and you keep on that tact. Do you know a hawk can attack children.

 

[RosemaryDuck]

Oh you added that to bolster your argues,ent and you keep on that tact. Do you know a hawk can attack children.

And you're just trying to derail the post.

 

[arwoon]

Oh you added that to bolster your argues,ent and you keep on that tact. Do you know a hawk can attack children.

What kind of hawk are you talken about?
No hawk where I live has that ability.
(unless your talking about a golden eagle or sumthin, and killin them is ILLEGAL!)

 

[EmmaRainboe]

Oh you added that to bolster your argues,ent and you keep on that tact. Do you know a hawk can attack children.

The post was not don’t protect your children. It was don’t go around encouraging people to SSS endangered species.