I don't see anyone being intimidated and being silent .
That's a general remark, surely you've seen people hounded into silence on this forum before. I know I have, and many others have as well. It's often people with good intentions hounding them into silence too, thinking they're hunting quacks or witches or something, lol.
But there are 2 sides of the coin. On one side there's people sharing their experiences and saying it works, and on the other side - How far has anyone gone to have their experience validated ?
And here's the edge of the coin --- to what extent do we have a right to require that someone validate their experience or opinion?
This is not a scientific forum and we're not peers reviewing a fellow's research paper, lol.
Very few claims of 'SJW cures Marek's' have been made on this thread, and all have had the lack of absolute proof pointed out (repeatedly and nonstop, in fact it's ongoing... Once or thrice would have been sufficient).
More importantly the legitimate claim of SJW working against neurological disorders has been proven. Surely that's something useful to people with animals suffering this type of disorder, and supports the general intent and subject of this thread, and therefore is relevant, unlike the repeated challenge of something that's been accepted as an unprovable statement many times over already. It's one thing to ask for more info like peer reviewed studies proving claims, it's another thing to dismiss someone's opinion or experience based on lack of it. The thread is becoming clogged with useless posts, unfortunately, making it ever more unlikely that people with animals with neurological disorders, who've heard of SJW being used for them, are going to wade through all this back-and-forth to get the info this thread is supposed to be dedicated to.
People have made some valid points on this thread, and asked some valid questions, there's no issue with that, but there's a limit to how many times you can make the same valid point, or repeat the same valid question which you know isn't going to be answered, before it becomes irrelevant and even counterproductive.
When someone says something we disagree with or doubt, we're free to disbelieve them or respectfully disagree with them, or silently hold it suspect in our own minds, and to point out flaws of methodology or ask for clarification, but we're not free to insist that they give us proof to support their opinion or experience, especially after they've repeatedly made it clear they're only sharing a single personal experience and not claiming it's proof of anything, and have no proof to offer.
Ideally, yes, they will take steps to validate it, but realistically most of us do not have that kind of resources, knowledge, or time at our disposal when desperately trying to save a sick bird. By all means we should raise our concerns and try to clarify a situation, but not persist in being a countering voice on a thread anti to its purpose when we have no proof for or against the subject.
All of us want to see this or something else work. With Marek's , I don't think it really matters what works as long as it works, and being natural or unnatural would not even cross my mind when one of my chickens is having symptoms of Marek's. Shoot, if used motor oil worked, I'd be using it.
I did supply scientific research as to how it works against cancer and neurological disorders; next step is testing it personally I guess.
I have always thought that getting to the truth is most important . I think others would like to know the truth as well. And you can't find it if you never question things. I have always thought that the best decision is an informed one.
This is all true, and valid for sure. Rhetorical questions, questions directed at and only answerable by persons non-present, and questions directed repeatedly at people who've said they have no further info to give, however, don't fall into that category of fact/truth finding questions you refer to. The thread is now quite full of those useless sorts of questions.
I would love love love to find that this stuff can help with Marek's symptoms.
If you read that info I linked to, it details exactly what compounds in it work against neurological issues, tumors, etc. I hope you don't have to try it in future but if you do it'd be great to see if you can validate it.
Best wishes.
