Standard of Perfection

[NYREDS]

I don't know that anything happened. It's entirely possible that a bright, articulate man like Mr Miller has other interests & is otherwise occupied.
I do know that my comment was posted 19 pages ago & Mr Miller posted several times after that. Given that I am at a loss as to why you assumed my comment had anything to do with the fact he hasn't posted recently.

Well what happened? What was the conversation that caused this? Oh nuts, NYRed. How do we get him back?
Gobstopped is eastern slang. It means stunned into speeechlessness. A gob is a bun the size of a small hamburger but made out of cake...usually chocolate or red velvet. Sliced sideways and filled with vanilla icing of choice of several textures. It's big enough that if you try to eat it all at once
you can't talk around the mouthful. Thus gobstopped.

 

[MobyQuail]

I got my SOP and have been paging through it, of course only interested in a few breeds but for a beginner who has never seen one its like someone handing you a shovel after you have been digging with a spoon.

the standards, with a lot of help from pros and breeders here is really good stuff and this year I hope to sharpen my eye from a dull round rock to maybe something that could knock some bark off a tree.

thanks for posting.

 

[fowlman01]

So Walt, if someone wanted to sponser a couple of illustrations, A) what is the cost, B) how soon before they would be printed in a new SOP?

Lanae

The APA does not have an artist on contract at the moment, so I am not sure what the illustration cost would be, but $500.00 each for the two might be close. A person could contract with Katherine Plumer who did many of the illustrations, but I have no idea what she is charging now. If they were the Red Sussex it could be put in on the next rerun, but if it is a breed that has no extra spaces on the page, it will have to wait until the next revision. The APA Board makes the decision on when the next Revision is to occur and that takes a minimum of two years......so 5-10 years.

Walt

 

[202roosterlane]

I just got my 2010 SOP and absolutely love it! I was debating because of the cost. But now that I have one it was so worth every penny.

 

[galanie]

JAM was talking about breeding to the standard and how important it is to do so. I suppose talking about the actual book and it's availability/etc isn't technically off topic but it does deviate from what attracted me to subscribe to this thread to begin with. I've gained a lot of knowledge about breeding chickens from Mr. Miller. Bandying back and forth over the book and where he might be... not so much.

 

[Robert Blosl]

gobstopped when I read that I thought of a Seroma. He will come back again. He was the only person to help me with my stain crossing idea. For that I am greatfull to him. bob

 

[3riverschick]

I don't know that anything happened. It's entirely possible that a bright, articulate man like Mr Miller has other interests & is otherwise occupied.
I do know that my comment was posted 19 pages ago & Mr Miller posted several times after that. Given that I am at a loss as to why you assumed my comment had anything to do with the fact he hasn't posted recently.

Hi NYRed,
19 pages ago! No wonder I couldn't find the original post. I apologize NYRed for jumping to conclusions.
Well, let's hope all is well and Dr. Miller will come back to share with us again.
Best Regards,
Karen in western PA

 

[Ducks and Banny hens]

Here's a hint (care of the new BYC) there is a little symbol next to a person's username in the quote box. Click it when you want to go right to the original post.


Banny

 

[warbirds]

You are very welcome to conatct the APA secretary and offer to sponsor the Red Sussex. That is how they get the prints included. Each one had a sponsor.

I did not realize that was how it worked...........
That said, I would imagine it is not inexpensive to sponsor such a thing.

 

[warbirds]

As far as I know there has never been a colored illustration of the Red Sussex in any APA Standard. There is a nice place for it on page 115 if someone wants to sponsor the two illustrations....It will not take 10 years if someone wants to do that.

There has never been any interest shown to have a set of illustrations of Red Sussex included in the SOP...so they are not there.


Walt

Thank you for this information, Walt!!
I could not remember one being in any older versions - used to borrow the SOP from the 4H and FFA leaders when my kids were breeding and showing way back. Now that I have a grandson very interested in breeding and showing, he's chosen some of the heritage breeds to work with, the Red and Light Sussex being two of his favorites (behind his beloved Black Jersey Giants!).
Would you know, Walt, if there is an illustration of any sort that we could use that would at least be as close to the written SOP as possible? There seems to be a gap between what is written in the SOP and what we have been told by some other breeders of the Reds.................we are concerned that some of the stock may not be what we need to produce true SOP stock.
The absence of a color illustration in the SOP is something I will mention to the members of the American Sussex Association..........seems the most likely bunch to help get some illustrations in there! May I quote your information to the ASA group?