Standard of Perfection

[3riverschick]

Hi,
A question on Light Sussex for Walt Leonard, please.

I am reading my APA SOP. For the Light Sussex, it states (quote is permitted by permission given in paratext of SOP (for dispension of knowledge only) " NECK: Hackle, web of feather, solid, lustrous, greenish black, moderately broad, with a narrow lacing of silvery white, uniform in width, extending around point of feather; greater portion of shaft, black.". end quote.

The English Standard and breed history are adamant that the Light Sussex has a
silver neck whose hackle feathers are striped in black. They descibe is as a white hackle feather with a black stripe down the middle which doesn't bleed thru to the white tip.
Does the APA believe the Light Sussex hackle feather is actually a black feather laced with white? Or do they believe that the white feather striped with black has been taken to such an extreme that it can now be properly described as a black feather laced with white?
Thanks!
Karen in western PA.

 

[fowlman01]

Hi,
A question on Light Sussex for Walt Leonard, please.

I am reading my APA SOP. For the Light Sussex, it states (quote is permitted by permission given in paratext of SOP (for dispension of knowledge only) " NECK: Hackle, web of feather, solid, lustrous, greenish black, moderately broad, with a narrow lacing of silvery white, uniform in width, extending around point of feather; greater portion of shaft, black.". end quote.

The English Standard and breed history are adamant that the Light Sussex has a
silver neck whose hackle feathers are striped in black. They descibe is as a white hackle feather with a black stripe down the middle which doesn't bleed thru to the white tip.
Does the APA believe the Light Sussex hackle feather is actually a black feather laced with white? Or do they believe that the white feather striped with black has been taken to such an extreme that it can now be properly described as a black feather laced with white?
Thanks!
Karen in western PA.

The APA believes that their description in the SOP is correct for US Birds. Many times.....even when birds originate on other countries, the APA will have a slightly different description. We see this in the Marans (French) and Orpingtons (English) as an example. Other countries also modify our breeds (The American breeds) to fit their birds. I don't know why,, but that is just the way it is.

Walt

 

[BarnGoddess01]

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The Standard for Silkies are also VERY different in North America than in Europe. EU countries even have large fowl varieties of Silkies.

 

[3riverschick]

The APA believes that their description in the SOP is correct for US Birds. Many times.....even when birds originate on other countries, the APA will have a slightly different description. We see this in the Marans (French) and Orpingtons (English) as an example. Other countries also modify our breeds (The American breeds) to fit their birds. I don't know why,, but that is just the way it is.

Walt

Thanks Walt,
Perhaps the APA hackle feather is described as basic black because, in the US, the undercolor is slate? In Britian the undercolor is white to the skin. Well, my Light Sussex will have a white feather striped with black instead of a black feather laced with white but I don't see that as a huge issue. I think breed type , production virtues, and head points are more important, especially if the visual is the same on the hackle. I don't know, have to study that further, I was just curious. Thanks for taking time to answer.
Regards,
Karen

 

[fowlman01]

Thanks Walt,
Perhaps the APA hackle feather is described as basic black because, in the US, the undercolor is slate? In Britian the undercolor is white to the skin. Well, my Light Sussex will have a white feather striped with black instead of a black feather laced with white but I don't see that as a huge issue. I think breed type , production virtues, and head points are more important, especially if the visual is the same on the hackle. I don't know, have to study that further, I was just curious. Thanks for taking time to answer.
Regards,
Karen

The undercolor on the APA description of Light Sussex is also white. That description for the Light has been in place in the SOP since 1924. (Neck: black feathers with narrow lacing of white).

Walt

 

[Chris09]

Hi,
A question on Light Sussex for Walt Leonard, please.

I am reading my APA SOP. For the Light Sussex, it states (quote is permitted by permission given in paratext of SOP (for dispension of knowledge only) " NECK: Hackle, web of feather, solid, lustrous, greenish black, moderately broad, with a narrow lacing of silvery white, uniform in width, extending around point of feather; greater portion of shaft, black.". end quote.

The English Standard and breed history are adamant that the Light Sussex has a
silver neck whose hackle feathers are striped in black. They descibe is as a white hackle feather with a black stripe down the middle which doesn't bleed thru to the white tip.
Does the APA believe the Light Sussex hackle feather is actually a black feather laced with white? Or do they believe that the white feather striped with black has been taken to such an extreme that it can now be properly described as a black feather laced with white?
Thanks!
Karen in western PA.

You may be misreading them because even though there worded differently to me there saying the same thing.

Hackle Feather of a Light (White and Black) Columbian Rooster off a Dutch website and I believe they go by English Standard..


Saddle



Chris

 

[3riverschick]

The undercolor on the APA description of Light Sussex is also white. That description for the Light has been in place in the SOP since 1924. (Neck: black feathers with narrow lacing of white).

Walt

Oops. My mistake, Walt. Thanks for the correction.
Karen

 

[fowlman01]

Oops. My mistake, Walt. Thanks for the correction.
Karen

The SS is slate.

Walt

 

[3riverschick]

The SS is slate.
Walt

Ah... that's where I erred. Thanks!
karen

 

[NYREDS]

The APA believes that their description in the SOP is correct for US Birds. Many times.....even when birds originate on other countries, the APA will have a slightly different description. We see this in the Marans (French) and Orpingtons (English) as an example. Other countries also modify our breeds (The American breeds) to fit their birds. I don't know why,, but that is just the way it is.

Walt

I have a British Standaed. If my Reds ever started to meet their Standard I'd have to cull the flock & start over. They wouldn't place here anymore.