Standard rule of breeding. The female should always be listed first in a cross! ...then no need to s

[bamadude]

There is a rule in breeding that you always list the female parent first! In this case the hen. The reason for this is to standardize the literature and eliminate confusion. There is no need to say which is the hen or rooster because it is understood. This can eliminate confusion in instances where there are differences between the results of the cross due to the parental order such as sexlinked traits. I have been researching autosexed breeds, sexlinks and crosses with the same. While trying to follow the threads I have run into many instances where people talk about their crosses and share pictures alternating the order of the parents til you aren't sure which way the cross was done or how to intemperate the results. and it all becomes meaningless. 
   Another reason for this rule is that it is easier to be sure of the female parent than the male, where there can sometimes be a surprise.
   Please share this rule with others as it will help simplify discussions and eliminate confusion. A benefit may be to make make results more searchable. Ie what happens when I cross Barred Rock x blue Ameraucana vs Blue Ameraucana x Barred Rock.  

You got your ears on?

 

[Finnie]

nor will I breed for exhibition... which I am guessing why this discussion.

No, I think the discussion was started for the purpose of helping everyone learn a standardized way of saying things so that we are all on the same page. Unfortunately, we as lay people already were on the same page, and it is a different page than the OP had hoped for.

People are knocking scientific terminology, but there is a very good reason for why scientists are very specific in their terms, even if it means using Latin for some of them. In English, we have synonyms which are words that can be interchanged and still make the sentence mean the same thing. Many ways of expressing the same idea. But there are so many facts and details in science, that there has to be a way to explain things which are very similar but actually different from each other. Because you are often comparing the two similar but different things. And you need to not confuse your listener about which one you are referring to. Hence standardized words and ways of notating things, which are not allowed to be thrown around willy nilly for the wrong purposes.

Science is hard enough. If they all said they didn't care about standardized terminology, none of them would be able to make any headway. If one word can be assigned as the definition for a concept that is long and cumbersome, then all the scientists can just use that one word each time it comes up, instead of re-explaining the concept over and over again. And it has to be agreed on to cooperate and not use that word for other things.

So yes, it means learning long lists of terms, such as homozygous and heterozygous. People who don't like to learn long words don't end up deciding to become scientists.

 

[Finnie]

Please share this rule with others as it will help simplify discussions and eliminate confusion.

Here, I just found this that summarizes the purpose of this discussion. It is a valid concern.

Wish I could learn to say things without long paragraphs.

 

[perchie.girl]

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I totally agree with you.... there are key terms for breed color and the ability to pass it on... homozygous and Heterozygous... and the bazillion combinations of Comb, Feather type, Feather color, Skin color, leg color, toes even spur quantity... Those go far beyond gender... And it all is complicated by the method of reproduction... Usually one Rooster per a group of hens.... that even goes further in that Most people don't segregate the laying hens and keep those eggs separated... So you know Which pairings produced what chicks...

The last would be most helpful for determining the best offspring produced by a pairing.

This is why I was asking who keeps pedigrees... because that way is the only way in my limited knowledge of genetics and bloodlines to really be able to keep a pedigree on any animal. I betcha in Zoos they know the pedigree of each animal down to its wild caught ancestors....

Me when I get into raising birds again I will be raising for traits.... Health, foraging ability, intelligence. even the ability to fly.

deb

 

[KernH]

My child support paperwork lists my ex wife first (plantiff) vs. Bamadude (defendant).

Thanks for bring some humor into this discussion! Kern

 

[Michael OShay]

Thanks for bring some humor into this discussion! Kern

X2 on that. )

 

[bamadude]

I can do the Carlton dance like no other. Holla

 

[Michael OShay]

I can do the Carlton dance like no other. Holla

LOL! I'd love to see that. Maybe you can post a video. )

 

[bamadude]

Its not unusual to be loved by anyone.....
I forget the rest of the song

 

[Couchmo]

Its not unusual to be loved by anyone.....
I forget the rest of the song

"It's Not Unusual"

It's not unusual to be loved by anyone
It's not unusual to have fun with anyone
but when I see you hanging about with anyone
It's not unusual to see me cry,
oh I wanna' die
It's not unusual to go out at any time
but when I see you out and about it's such a crime
if you should ever want to be loved by anyone,
It's not unusual it happens every day no matter what you say
you find it happens all the time
love will never do what you want it to
why can't this crazy love be mine
It's not unusual, to be mad with anyone
It's not unusual, to be sad with anyone
but if I ever find that you've changed at anytime
it's not unusual to find out that I'm in love with you
whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh



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