Started Reading "Pastured Poultry Profit$" - Joel Salatin

[bibliophile birds]

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no, i agree. it isn't at all a liberal/conservative issue. and like i said, i still have a really high regard for his sustainable methods.

i guess the issue for me is giving my money to someone. i'd rather not give my money to someone who spends a good portion of a book, supposedly dealing with local agriculture, talking about abortion and vegetarians... i mean, there is a time and a place for those thoughts. i would hope that we could discuss sustainable, local agriculture without needing to get into social politics. maybe we can't avoid talking about bureaucratic red tape and farm subsidies, but we can at least not go into personal ideologies. that way, regardless of politics, we can work together on what's important.

 

[Buster52]

Well, I read it and didn't find that to be the case. I don't agree with a lot of things Joel says, but enjoyed the book anyway. He makes many good points. And considering his program of sustainable agriculture is doing a great deal of good, I don't mind sending him my money in the least.

 

[the simple life]

Alot of books are written with the author's personal take on things included in it, take what you want and leave the rest.
If he helped me in anyway then I feel my money was well spent. Hey, alot worse people get my money I am sure.

 

[bibliophile birds]

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that's helpful. like i said, i haven't read it yet, so i was really looking for someone's personal experience with it. i didn't want to not read it because of negative reviews, so i'm glad you said it wasn't all political ramblings. i'll probably get it from the library, if i can.

someone on another thread said they wouldn't read anything by Joel because they didn't agree with his politics (as we were discussing them) and i strongly recommended that not write him off. if nothing else, Pastured Poultry Profits really is some kind of holy grail for poultry raising.

 

[TarzantheChickenMan]

great read i read a few times as a kid my wife bought it for me as a house warming gift lol never guess what she wanted to do

 

[dancingbear]

When I went to college, I didn't care if my algebra teacher agreed with my politics. I wanted her to teach me algebra. Ditto, my American History prof, and other teachers. I see this issue with Joel Salatin the same way. The man knows how to raise livestock and poultry in a humane, sustainable manner. That's what I want to learn from him. I'm not looking to him, or anybody else, to be a role model for other areas of my life.

I don't care whether we vote for the same people, listen to the same music, read the same books, like the same movies, or anything else. I've learned helpful and valuable things from just watching a few you tube vids of his. I'm sure the books will be even more helpful to me.

Part of being an adult, is learning that we don't have to agree with a person on every subject, in order to learn from them, or teach them, or simply respect them as an individual person.

 

[jaku]

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Well said!

 

[bibliophile birds]

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in general i agree. so long as everyone's personal politics are left out of it, we have a lot to learn from people, even those that don't vote like us.

my worry was that some of his books (ones that i've not read, like Everything I Want to Do Is Illegal) were supposedly more about his personal politics but packaged as a book about sustainable food ways. that's what i wanted to stay away from. i don't want my algebra teaching telling me their views on religion or politics either, at least not in the classroom...

i'm very happy to learn from him and i loved Pastured Poultry Profits. based on what some others have said, i'm going to give EIWtDII a shot, at least if the library has it.

 

[Buster52]

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in general i agree. so long as everyone's personal politics are left out of it, we have a lot to learn from people, even those that don't vote like us.

If you can't read someone's personal religious or political views you disagree with and not be swayed or particularly bothered by it, you should probably skip reading Everything I Want to Do is Illegal. He does mention things you will probably find objectionable. Personally, I was able to read that stuff and just blow it off as, well, views I disagreed with, and I still got a lot out of the book. There are many roadblocks to providing good local sustainable food. That is mostly what the book is about, and for that it is more than worth the read. He relates horror stories that will curl your hair, tick you off, and make you want to call your congress person.

As to getting the book through the library, you probably can get it through interlibrary loan if your local library participates in such a system, even if it doesn't own the book. But, I'm sure you already knew that, as any bibliophile would.

 

[robbdebbie]

It is his book, and he can write whatever he wants in it

j/k

Doesn't mean you have to buy it, or even read that part. It would be different if it were a text book for a class, but it isn't. They are his thoughts, and his methods of doing things that have worked for him.