Still need help! (silkie genetics)

[SunnySid3Up]

I have been recently wanting to get into breeding show quality silkies, either white or paint, most likely white. If you look in my post from yesterday its one of the very first posts in my profile, I think its the 2nd. Well I recently came to find out that my I should probably replace my rooster, any recommendations on hatcheries, or websites I could go to, to find a good quality roo?

 

[Chicken_Obsesser]

@Debbie292d

 

[Debbie292d]

I have been recently wanting to get into breeding show quality silkies, either white or paint, most likely white. If you look in my post from yesterday its one of the very first posts in my profile, I think its the 2nd. Well I recently came to find out that my I should probably replace my rooster, any recommendations on hatcheries, or websites I could go to, to find a good quality roo?

It depends where you live. I'm assuming you're in the states? You could google silkie breeders near you and find out if one's in drivable distance. I never knew there was one in just under an hour to me.

Another way is look for poultry swaps in your area. https://www.poultryshowcentral.com/swap-meet-dates.html

I would also look on Facebook. If you don't have an acct, make one just for chicken stuff as there will be chicken groups for your area. If you posted there that you need a "show quality" white silky rooster, I can bet you'll get a few replies. You can message those people and find out if it's doable.

If you want to pay to have an adult chicken shipped to you, you're looking at a few hundred. I've done that and would put you in touch with a couple.

Yet another way, is get an incubator, then look for silkie breeders who sell/ship eggs. I can give you a few tips for those if you want.

 

[The Moonshiner]

You need to stay away from paints. That's not an accepted variety and the quality just isn't there with them yet.
Whites are right up there at the top as fair as being able to find quality birds.
If you're not up on the standard or not sure you'd know a show quality vs breeder quality vs pet quality I'd go to a real show and see what's there.
Idk but here there's always quite a few silkies showing.
Network with the breeders that are showing. Try to make contacts with breeders of silkies that placed. That's the best way to go about it and know you're dealing with better birds and not just buying eggs from someone using "show quality" as a advertising phrase.

 

[SunnySid3Up]

You need to stay away from paints. That's not an accepted variety and the quality just isn't there with them yet.
Whites are right up there at the top as fair as being able to find quality birds.
If you're not up on the standard or not sure you'd know a show quality vs breeder quality vs pet quality I'd go to a real show and see what's there.
Idk but here there's always quite a few silkies showing.
Network with the breeders that are showing. Try to make contacts with breeders of silkies that placed. That's the best way to go about it and know you're dealing with better birds and not just buying eggs from someone using "show quality" as a advertising phrase.

Thank you!

 

[Debbie292d]

You need to stay away from paints. That's not an accepted variety and the quality just isn't there with them yet.
Whites are right up there at the top as fair as being able to find quality birds.
If you're not up on the standard or not sure you'd know a show quality vs breeder quality vs pet quality I'd go to a real show and see what's there.
Idk but here there's always quite a few silkies showing.
Network with the breeders that are showing. Try to make contacts with breeders of silkies that placed. That's the best way to go about it and know you're dealing with better birds and not just buying eggs from someone using "show quality" as a advertising phrase.

Paints are fun to breed. Sometimes challenging. And one of the coolest moving yard ornaments.

I've been wishing DNA tested for dominate white as they can only test for recessive white, so I'd send in a bunch of my white one's blood and still never know for sure until they're bred with a black and make 100% paints.

The APA doesn't recognize them, but the ABA does. American Bantam Association, for whatever that's worth.

 

[SunnySid3Up]

Paints are fun to breed. Sometimes challenging. And one of the coolest moving yard ornaments.

I've been wishing DNA tested for dominate white as they can only test for recessive white, so I'd send in a bunch of my white one's blood and still never know for sure until they're bred with a black and make 100% paints.

The APA doesn't recognize them, but the ABA does. American Bantam Association, for whatever that's worth.

Thank you!

 

[The Moonshiner]

Paints are fun to breed. Sometimes challenging. And one of the coolest moving yard ornaments.

I've been wishing DNA tested for dominate white as they can only test for recessive white, so I'd send in a bunch of my white one's blood and still never know for sure until they're bred with a black and make 100% paints.

The APA doesn't recognize them, but the ABA does. American Bantam Association, for whatever that's worth.

I did not know the ABA approved them. Admittedly I haven't kept up on the bantam.
I never said they weren't fun, cool or pretty in the yard. My opinion is is that if someone wants to get into show quality silkies and mention whites and paints it's a no brainer for me.
Whites have been around, been bred and been shown forever. Paints have not. Paints had to have another breed crossed in to get the dominant white. So in the big scheme of show quality they're the new kids on the block and imo would be extremely harder to find top level birds compared to whites or even many other varieties.

 

[Slothinc]

Paints are fun to breed. Sometimes challenging. And one of the coolest moving yard ornaments.

I've been wishing DNA tested for dominate white as they can only test for recessive white, so I'd send in a bunch of my white one's blood and still never know for sure until they're bred with a black and make 100% paints.

The APA doesn't recognize them, but the ABA does. American Bantam Association, for whatever that's worth.

Debbie, this is a little off topic, but I have been trying to research dominant white as I have been playing around with it in my flock. I think that I have come to the conclusion that dominant white is a melanin inhibitor and I don’t think you will ever find a dominant white silkie that has a black beak, comb, skin, shanks, etc because it doesn’t seem to be possible…

That is just my conclusion from reading several articles about it. I could be wrong. But I did have several white chicks in my last hatch and they all had pink skin, legs, beak, etc. their father and mother were both paint. I sold all of them, but that is something I will look for in the future if I am hoping to keep a dominant white.

 

[SunnySid3Up]

I did not know the ABA approved them. Admittedly I haven't kept up on the bantam.
I never said they weren't fun, cool or pretty in the yard. My opinion is is that if someone wants to get into show quality silkies and mention whites and paints it's a no brainer for me.
Whites have been around, been bred and been shown forever. Paints have not. Paints had to have another breed crossed in to get the dominant white. So in the big scheme of show quality they're the new kids on the block and imo would be extremely harder to find top level birds compared to whites or even many other varieties.

I'm thinking about introducing lavenders, and splashes into the flock, and buying some from a reputable breeder, but I don't know if I can show them, or if the would have a good chance in the ring.