Strange Poo (pics)

[TropicalRoo]

This morning I noticed that there was something new in the poo of one of our chickens. Along with being a bit watery, there are what look like reddish-orange fish eggs in it. We live in Hawaii, I do not fish, and the nearest water is the ocean 5 miles away, so I am guessing they are not actually fish eggs. It does kind of look a bit like a photo on the web that says it is just intestinal lining, and not a cause for worry. At this point I am not convinced that is what this is, as these are far more spherically defined that what the web photo showed.

We have a flock of 45, so aside from the health concern for the particular chicken that did this (and I do not know which one at this point), if it is something that can spread...

Any thoughts on what this may be would be greatly appreciated.

 

[StrawberryHouseMouse]

that is strange, have they been eating some sort of berries?

 

[BattleChickens]

berries were my first thought, too

 

[TropicalRoo]

I appreciate both of your quick responses, but sorrowfully, no, there are no berries anywhere in the area, though I would agree they look like that as a possibility also.

I spend a lot of time in the yard and surrounding area and have seen nothing like this that comes to mind. We have 2 acres here, and during the day the girls free-range the half or so of it that is cleared, and whatever this stuff is does not look like anything I have seen, nor are they like any of the seeds from the different fruit we have around here.

 

[tropicalchicken]

bump

 

[Glenda L Heywood]

You need to worm the chickens

it looks some kind of worm eggs

so maybe get the wormers going


I would suggest that they be wormed first with wazine or peperzine
then Ivermectin pour on is 5% Ivermectin
1% ivermectin is the shot or down the throat kind

the reason for worming 10 days apart is this

the first worming with piperzine or wazine is to take and kill or expell the woms from the gut of the chickens
and that will ease the pressure put on the chickens body from being poisoned by too many killed or expelled round worms at one time

then give the wet mash probiotic inbetween the peperzine or wazineworming
and then the Ivermectin worming

you can call Smith poultry supply in Ks that had the pour on for $29.00 which was a good buy

Smith Poultry & Game Bird Supply

14000 W. 215th St., Bucyrus, KS 66013-9519

Ph. 913-879-2587 - 7:30 A. M. - 3 P. M CST Monday-Friday

24-hour Fax. 913-533-2497



Do ask them if it is pour on( generally blue in color) so you know if it is 5% drop on flesh
or 1% water soluble for down the throat or in shot with propolene glycol? drops of propolen glycol to one drop of Ivermectin 1% and each chicken gets 4 drops ivermectin for females and 5 drops ivermectin for cockerels adding the appropreate amt of proplene glycol with each drop of ivermectin

Wet mash probiotics are neccessary for the good gut flora to come back after poisoning the worms that were in the chickens gut

worms are very hard on chickens and getting them wormed chemically is very hard on chickens
so a need for wet mash probiotics
better to be safe than sorry

worming twice a yr is plenty with these two wormers
and the wet mash probiotic is for all times when not using mycin antibiotics
yes on a rainy cool spring the wild birds spread the round worms as they eat a lot of earth worms which have the round worm egg larves in their manure
another good reason not to feed earth worms

My friend Randy Henry did a lot of study on worming in his 17 yrs study on Veterinary
here is some of his usage of Ivermectin 1% soluble and 5%

Also severl people use Ivomec wormer 1% water soluble
or 5% and put on the neck skin of the bird.

Injectable 1% is
used inside the bird in injection or in the water also given down the throat
. And
5% is used on the shoulder or neck flesh of the bird only. Not inside the birds mouth.

Directions for 5% ivomec put on shoulder or on the neck
only not internally.
(1 1 drop small bantam such as female OE
(2 2 drops large bantam male like OE
(3 3 drops most bantams
(4 4 drops larger bantams and smaller commercial hens
(5 5 drops commercial large fowl and smaller large
fowl
(5 5 drops Large fowl chicken
(7 7 drops larger males of large fowl breeds of
USING ALL METHODS OF WORMING/SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE
06/21/09 at 15:38:39 DIFFERENT TYPES OF WORMING
Read all this carefully and decide what is your best plan of doing the worming
the 5% drop on is time consuming but the best over all method in my opinion
Nathalie Ross discusses this on her spot here
Glenda L Heywood Brookings SD
http://www.gkpet.com
click on pet forum for articles on poultry
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HERE IS SOME ANSWERS TO USING WAZINE FOR ROUND WORMS AND iVERMECTIN FOR THE OTHERS AND LICE AND MITES
try reading and answering most of your questions on usine
wazine or peperzine for round worms
and Ivermectin 1% water soluble or 5% oil based
ANY QUESTIONS EMAIL THEM TO ME
Glenda L Heywood

ANSWER
my friend Pam Hogan gives this info on using Ivermetin 1% water soluble

Dr. Ron Dickey, of Rogue River Veterinary Hospital, gave us the
following formula for worming with Ivomec, which is safe to use on
any bird, because it goes by the weight of the bird.

Use only 1% injectible cattle formula of Ivomec—not the pour-on.

Dilute the Ivomec 10 fold. Use 9 parts water or propylene glycol to
1 part 1% Ivomec. Use .1cc per lb. of body weight. For smaller
birds, dilute 20/1 and use 1cc per lb. of body weight.

If you are using water, Ivomec is not stable in water, so you have
to keep shaking it well before you draw a dosage. Ivomec is stable
in propylene glycol, and it works much better. You can buy a big
jug of it at most feedstores/farm supplies—it is used for pregnant
sheep, goats and cattle.

Ivomec is effective against internal parasites like trachea worm,
and also takes care of the external parasites. Levasole gets the
capillary worms and some others that the Ivomec doesn't get.
Pam Hogan

ANSWER
My friend Randy Henry did a lot of study on worming in his 17 yrs study on Veterinary
here is some of his usage of Ivermectin 1% soluble and 5% oil based

Also severl people use Ivomec wormer 1% water soluble
or 5% oil based and put on the neck skin of the bird.

Injectable 1% is
used inside the bird in injection or in the water also given down the throat
. And
5% oil based is used on the shoulder of the bird only. Not inside the birds mouth.

Directions for 5% ivomec with oil base put on shoulder
only not internally.
(1 1 drop small bantam such as female OE
(2 2 drops large bantam male like OE
(3 3 drops most bantams
(4 4 drops larger bantams and smaller commercial hens
(5 5 drops commercial large fowl and smaller large
fowl
(5 5 drops Large fowl chicken
(7 7 drops larger males of large fowl breeds of
Chickens.

(A 5% oil type Ivomec Stays on the birds for at least
6 weeks. and is the reason it is only used on the out
side under the feathers on the shoulder of the
chickens. Slow release time.

(B 1% water soulable is injectable and can be used in
the water. also given by mouth

USING 1% IVERMECTIN IN THE WATER
WHICH IS NOT MY PREFERRED USE OF IT????
you have to treat 4 times a yr GLH


Iona wrote:
I leave treated water (4 cc per gallon of water) in the coops for 2
days. It is the only water so everyone drinks. I change the water
mixture every day and more often if it gets dirty. There is a great
margin for safety when using ivermectin so I don't worry about a bird
over dosing on it. I have been using injectable ivermectin mixed with
drinking water for 5 years now and have never had a problem.
GAILsaid this
I use the injectable 1 % solution mixed at 8 cc. per gallon of water to
treat canaries for air sac mites and to worm chickens, budgies,
canaries, cockatiels, etc. I take their water away the night before and
use this solution as the only source of water for 24 hours. It is
important to treat again in 10 days to get all the mites that have
hatched out since the treatment BEFORE they can lay eggs again. For
scaly face/leg mites I treat the birds at least four times.
To prevent heart worms and treat round and hook worms in dogs I use the
same 1% injectable diluted 14 cc. of ivermectin to 86 cc of propylene
glycol, administered orally once a month at a dosage rate of 1 cc for
every ten pounds body weight. This works very well for me, although I
would use caution in giving ivermectin to collies or collie crosses. I
have not had any problem with shetland sheepdogs or border collies, but
your results may vary. Gail

GLH
also I would then give the wet mash probiotic recipe after the worming is done

email me any questions

 

[gjoyner]

this helped me..maybe for future reference. (i think you need a worming)
http://www.chat.allotment.org.uk/index.php?topic=17568.0

 

[tropicalchicken]

Ok, we have the wazine to use for right now and will order the Ivermectin.

We start with the wazine first, correct? My bottle says not to use on chickens producing eggs. Can anyone tell me how long to not consume the eggs for?

Then we do the Ivermectin just one time, on day 10? Then twice a year.

Thanks everyone.

 

[Judy]

What I usually read is to wait two weeks. You can cook them and feed them to the chickens and dogs and such, though.

 

[ScoobyRoo]

Quote:
If they are not good for us are you sure it is okay for our pets? I know they can eat alot of gross things

and not get sick but???????? just wondered.