Beautiful rooster! If you don't want him, maybe you can catch him and find him a new home somewhere?
Strange Rooster taking up residence in my yard
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If he does decide to keep hanging around I will eventually have to catch and cage him to either keep or rehome because I fear he may fly over into my fenced-in front yard whare I have three dogs that would love to play tug-of-war with him. I have had, in the past, chickens escape out of my fenced in back yard and and somehow get into my fenced front yard just to be killed by the dogs. You would think they'd no better. Anyway, I will do my best to make sure he is taken care of and stays out of trouble.
" The males of some breeds of chickens such as the Old English, Modern, and American Games, are required to be "dubbed" in order to be shown. These are all single comb breeds. "Dubbing" consists of the removal of the head appendages such as comb, wattles, and ear lobes. This is similar to the dockin of tails on certain breeds of dogs. This procedure is usually conducted using surgical shears and takes place when the males are six months of age or older. These appendages do not grow back so it is only necessary to perform the procedure once on each bird. "
" Single: A moderately thin, fleshy formation of smooth soft surface texture, firmly attached from the beak along the top of skull with a strong base, the top portion showing five or six rather deep serrations or distinct points, the middle points being higher than the anterior or posterior, forming a semi-oval when viewed in profile. The comb always erect and much larger and thicker in male than female; may be lopped or erect in female, depending on breed. The comb is divided into three sections, the front or anterior, the middle, and that extending past the rear base of the skull, the posterior or blade "
" Pea: A medium length, low comb, the top of which is marked with three low lengthwise ridges, the center one slightly higher than the outer ones, the top of which are either undulated or marked with small rounded serrations, a breed characteristic found in Ameraucanas, Brahmas, Buckeyes, Cornish, Cubalayas and Sumatras. "
From the side , that single comb viewed from a distance looked like a pea comb . The OP stated its a fallen single , and the last picture shows a damaged example of a single comb IMO . I don't understand why two game breeders would call it a pea comb , but I'm not a game breeder .
" Single: A moderately thin, fleshy formation of smooth soft surface texture, firmly attached from the beak along the top of skull with a strong base, the top portion showing five or six rather deep serrations or distinct points, the middle points being higher than the anterior or posterior, forming a semi-oval when viewed in profile. The comb always erect and much larger and thicker in male than female; may be lopped or erect in female, depending on breed. The comb is divided into three sections, the front or anterior, the middle, and that extending past the rear base of the skull, the posterior or blade "
" Pea: A medium length, low comb, the top of which is marked with three low lengthwise ridges, the center one slightly higher than the outer ones, the top of which are either undulated or marked with small rounded serrations, a breed characteristic found in Ameraucanas, Brahmas, Buckeyes, Cornish, Cubalayas and Sumatras. "
From the side , that single comb viewed from a distance looked like a pea comb . The OP stated its a fallen single , and the last picture shows a damaged example of a single comb IMO . I don't understand why two game breeders would call it a pea comb , but I'm not a game breeder .
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That is the show standard. But i am speaking of real American gamefowl. American gamefowl consist of Oriental games (pea/triple combs), Old english (single), Irish gamefowl (single and pea comb), and some of them have Sumatra (walnut), and spanish/cuban (rose comb) in them. True American gamefowl, are commonly found in pea combs, most people i know prefer that on them. But the APA would not accept both combs as it was too much of a variation, they wanted them to be more uniformed so they were bred to come with a single comb. Was there also some conflict over the pea comb which is why it wasn't chosen? No idea.
And the reason i say "real" American gamefowl, is many of the American gamefowl being shown are crossed with other breeds to get rid of the gameness. All of them aren't but some are, in the bantams it is especially so. The comb isn't torn at all, and even if it were you would still be able to see where the comb would be. These images are posted by CUDA in the Show off your games thread - first example is a single comb, see how far it goes back onto the head of the bird, past the eyes
. Second example is a pea comb, flopped over, it stops right before the eye, or at it
. Link - https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=106767&p=1
-Daniel.
That is the show standard. But i am speaking of real American gamefowl. American gamefowl consist of Oriental games (pea/triple combs), Old english (single), Irish gamefowl (single and pea comb), and some of them have Sumatra (walnut), and spanish/cuban (rose comb) in them. True American gamefowl, are commonly found in pea combs, most people i know prefer that on them. But the APA would not accept both combs as it was too much of a variation, they wanted them to be more uniformed so they were bred to come with a single comb. Was there also some conflict over the pea comb which is why it wasn't chosen? No idea.
And the reason i say "real" American gamefowl, is many of the American gamefowl being shown are crossed with other breeds to get rid of the gameness. All of them aren't but some are, in the bantams it is especially so. The comb isn't torn at all, and even if it were you would still be able to see where the comb would be. These images are posted by CUDA in the Show off your games thread - first example is a single comb, see how far it goes back onto the head of the bird, past the eyes
-Daniel.
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That is the show standard. But i am speaking of real American gamefowl. American gamefowl consist of Oriental games (pea/triple combs), Old english (single), Irish gamefowl (single and pea comb), and some of them have Sumatra (walnut), and spanish/cuban (rose comb) in them. True American gamefowl, are commonly found in pea combs, most people i know prefer that on them. But the APA would not accept both combs as it was too much of a variation, they wanted them to be more uniformed so they were bred to come with a single comb. Was there also some conflict over the pea comb which is why it wasn't chosen? No idea.
And the reason i say "real" American gamefowl, is many of the American gamefowl being shown are crossed with other breeds to get rid of the gameness. All of them aren't but some are, in the bantams it is especially so. The comb isn't torn at all, and even if it were you would still be able to see where the comb would be. These images are posted by CUDA in the Show off your games thread - first example is a single comb, see how far it goes back onto the head of the bird, past the eyes http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/ultimatefowl/028.jpg. Second example is a pea comb, flopped over, it stops right before the eye, or at it http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/ultimatefowl/027.jpg. Link - https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=106767&p=1
-Daniel.
Awwwww . I think I understand now . No matter how high the pea comb has become due to the influence of single comb genes on a pea comb , a game breeder would still call it a pea comb ?
That is the show standard. But i am speaking of real American gamefowl. American gamefowl consist of Oriental games (pea/triple combs), Old english (single), Irish gamefowl (single and pea comb), and some of them have Sumatra (walnut), and spanish/cuban (rose comb) in them. True American gamefowl, are commonly found in pea combs, most people i know prefer that on them. But the APA would not accept both combs as it was too much of a variation, they wanted them to be more uniformed so they were bred to come with a single comb. Was there also some conflict over the pea comb which is why it wasn't chosen? No idea.
And the reason i say "real" American gamefowl, is many of the American gamefowl being shown are crossed with other breeds to get rid of the gameness. All of them aren't but some are, in the bantams it is especially so. The comb isn't torn at all, and even if it were you would still be able to see where the comb would be. These images are posted by CUDA in the Show off your games thread - first example is a single comb, see how far it goes back onto the head of the bird, past the eyes http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/ultimatefowl/028.jpg. Second example is a pea comb, flopped over, it stops right before the eye, or at it http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/ultimatefowl/027.jpg. Link - https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=106767&p=1
-Daniel.
Awwwww . I think I understand now . No matter how high the pea comb has become due to the influence of single comb genes on a pea comb , a game breeder would still call it a pea comb ?
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That is the show standard. But i am speaking of real American gamefowl. American gamefowl consist of Oriental games (pea/triple combs), Old english (single), Irish gamefowl (single and pea comb), and some of them have Sumatra (walnut), and spanish/cuban (rose comb) in them. True American gamefowl, are commonly found in pea combs, most people i know prefer that on them. But the APA would not accept both combs as it was too much of a variation, they wanted them to be more uniformed so they were bred to come with a single comb. Was there also some conflict over the pea comb which is why it wasn't chosen? No idea.
And the reason i say "real" American gamefowl, is many of the American gamefowl being shown are crossed with other breeds to get rid of the gameness. All of them aren't but some are, in the bantams it is especially so. The comb isn't torn at all, and even if it were you would still be able to see where the comb would be. These images are posted by CUDA in the Show off your games thread - first example is a single comb, see how far it goes back onto the head of the bird, past the eyes http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/ultimatefowl/028.jpg. Second example is a pea comb, flopped over, it stops right before the eye, or at it http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/ultimatefowl/027.jpg. Link - https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=106767&p=1
-Daniel.
Awwwww . I think I understand now . No matter how high the pea comb has become due to the influence of single comb genes on a pea comb , a game breeder would still call it a pea comb ?
Yup pretty much. Really a lot of them are triple combs too, but they commonly are just called pea combs as well.
-Daniel.
That is the show standard. But i am speaking of real American gamefowl. American gamefowl consist of Oriental games (pea/triple combs), Old english (single), Irish gamefowl (single and pea comb), and some of them have Sumatra (walnut), and spanish/cuban (rose comb) in them. True American gamefowl, are commonly found in pea combs, most people i know prefer that on them. But the APA would not accept both combs as it was too much of a variation, they wanted them to be more uniformed so they were bred to come with a single comb. Was there also some conflict over the pea comb which is why it wasn't chosen? No idea.
And the reason i say "real" American gamefowl, is many of the American gamefowl being shown are crossed with other breeds to get rid of the gameness. All of them aren't but some are, in the bantams it is especially so. The comb isn't torn at all, and even if it were you would still be able to see where the comb would be. These images are posted by CUDA in the Show off your games thread - first example is a single comb, see how far it goes back onto the head of the bird, past the eyes http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/ultimatefowl/028.jpg. Second example is a pea comb, flopped over, it stops right before the eye, or at it http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/ultimatefowl/027.jpg. Link - https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=106767&p=1
-Daniel.
Awwwww . I think I understand now . No matter how high the pea comb has become due to the influence of single comb genes on a pea comb , a game breeder would still call it a pea comb ?
Yup pretty much. Really a lot of them are triple combs too, but they commonly are just called pea combs as well.
-Daniel.
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I give you a BIG
I am right down the street from you - - in Bryceville.
I give you a BIG
I am right down the street from you - - in Bryceville.
When I was a boy one of our neighbors decided to start keeping game fowl. Brought home six roosters. I don't know the breed, but they were pretty big.
The smallest one got run off and ended up at our place. At the time we had twelve roosters of dual purpose breeds. They all needed culling, but my dad hadn't done it yet. They'd give the hens a hard time so they were all bare back. Until this game cock came along. He flew over the hen yard fence and proceeded to take over. All of our roosters were bigger than him, but one by one he whipped every one of them and took all of the hens for himself. Egg production went up, the hens were happier, and the extra roosters eventually got invited to a barbecue (another story in itself). We eventually lost him to a bobcat defending his hens.
.....Alan.
The smallest one got run off and ended up at our place. At the time we had twelve roosters of dual purpose breeds. They all needed culling, but my dad hadn't done it yet. They'd give the hens a hard time so they were all bare back. Until this game cock came along. He flew over the hen yard fence and proceeded to take over. All of our roosters were bigger than him, but one by one he whipped every one of them and took all of the hens for himself. Egg production went up, the hens were happier, and the extra roosters eventually got invited to a barbecue (another story in itself). We eventually lost him to a bobcat defending his hens.
.....Alan.
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Thanks for big welcome Math Ace, maybe we will cross paths someday. Hey A.T. I am in a similar situation that your dad was in that I also have roos (two of which I would like to give away and keep three of the others for breeding). I wouldn't care to much if this game bird whipped all my roosters and took over, I just didn't want to see a fight to the death or anything like that. Maybe I am being more concerned than I should be about an actual death, things may not go to that extreme. I do have a good size fenced in yard that my flock stays in all the time with an open door coop that they use to roost in at night, they wouldn't be closed in together. I could just put the three or four roos that I would like to keep in some sort of batchler pad or separate somehow and let the game roo run loose with the hens in my yard. I will have to do some supervised expeirmenting.
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I first want to respond to your question on page 2. If he is american game which pretty much looks like it, he will have to be teathered on a tie cord or in a pen period unless you want him to whoop the tar out of any roosters. Even if he is half game, he can still be all game meaning he will fight that rooster to the death. Now normally when a game rooster fights a normal barnyard roo, the barnyard will decide and will run...Games do NOT do this. I even hav half games mixed with barnyard and some of them half to be seperated. Sorry but that is the way it is. I used to have just one game, and he would fight every single one of My roosters untill he eventually ran three off and killed two.
Also on the other comment someone made about his comb, those are not fight marks on his comb. A true game never runs regardless of the circumstances with another rooster.
He will only fight a rooster to the death if hes fighting a game rooster. Most normal roos will run and hide but if they are like My old gme that I had(hatchxclaret) they are never far enough and he will eventually take care of them. Please do not think games are agressive with people cause that is usually a bunch of bull. 90% of them are not agressive to people like some rir's can be, and if they are there has been some type of damage/torment that was done to them. I am currently working with a manfighter. All he had to do was look at you and he was flogging you. Now since Ive been working with him, he is coming around. Good luck!
I first want to respond to your question on page 2. If he is american game which pretty much looks like it, he will have to be teathered on a tie cord or in a pen period unless you want him to whoop the tar out of any roosters. Even if he is half game, he can still be all game meaning he will fight that rooster to the death. Now normally when a game rooster fights a normal barnyard roo, the barnyard will decide and will run...Games do NOT do this. I even hav half games mixed with barnyard and some of them half to be seperated. Sorry but that is the way it is. I used to have just one game, and he would fight every single one of My roosters untill he eventually ran three off and killed two.
Also on the other comment someone made about his comb, those are not fight marks on his comb. A true game never runs regardless of the circumstances with another rooster.
He will only fight a rooster to the death if hes fighting a game rooster. Most normal roos will run and hide but if they are like My old gme that I had(hatchxclaret) they are never far enough and he will eventually take care of them. Please do not think games are agressive with people cause that is usually a bunch of bull. 90% of them are not agressive to people like some rir's can be, and if they are there has been some type of damage/torment that was done to them. I am currently working with a manfighter. All he had to do was look at you and he was flogging you. Now since Ive been working with him, he is coming around. Good luck!
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