SultanChicken won’t eat. Crop not changed for nine days with treatment

[Fontaine]

I forgot to ask, are the little stones normal. Antoinette is about 3 lbs ( sultan) and I could feel maybe a teaspoon full when only thing left in her crop was liquid as described in original post.

 

[Fontaine]

How much calcium citrate. Have 600mg plus d3

 

[azygous]

Give one whole tablet of the citrate directly into her crop. She will swallow no problem.

The one-dose Epsom flush is one teaspoon in one ounce of warm water. She may drink it if it's the only water. Confine her with it and see if she drinks it. She has to drink it all.

You can get a tube feeding catheter and syringe at you nearest vet. Mine sold me a kit for $3. Or you can scrounge the tubing from a friend who uses oxygen and discards the tubing regularly. Or buy aquarium tubing and try to get a syringe from a pharmacy to fit it.

Much more effective is the three-day Epsom salts treatment. One teaspoon magnesium sulfate to one half cup warm water tubed directly into the crop. I'll instruct if you decide to do this. You do this twice a day for three days. It stimulates the intestines to push material through, hopefully pulling any clogs out of the gizzard.

 

[Fontaine]

Ok I’ll start with the one tsp.in oz water. Today I’ll get the stuff for the flush.

Give one whole tablet of the citrate directly into her crop. She will swallow no problem.

The one-dose Epsom flush is one teaspoon in one ounce of warm water. She may drink it if it's the only water. Confine her with it and see if she drinks it. She has to drink it all.

You can get a tube feeding catheter and syringe at you nearest vet. Mine sold me a kit for $3. Or you can scrounge the tubing from a friend who uses oxygen and discards the tubing regularly. Or buy aquarium tubing and try to get a syringe from a pharmacy to fit it.

Much more effective is the three-day Epsom salts treatment. One teaspoon magnesium sulfate to one half cup warm water tubed directly into the crop. I'll instruct if you decide to do this. You do this twice a day for three days. It stimulates the intestines to push material through, hopefully pulling any clogs out of the gizzard.

I found aquarium tubing at the store and have a 10 cc or 3 cc syringe. Antoinette wasn’t interested in drinking the epsom so I want to go ahead with the 3 day flush. I really would appreciate instruction on this. I have a friend who can help. I did give her the tablet a couple hours ago of citrate.

 

[Fontaine]

Ok I’ll start with the one tsp.in oz water. Today I’ll get the stuff for the flush.

I found aquarium tubing at the store and have a 10 cc or 3 cc syringe. Antoinette wasn’t interested in drinking the epsom so I want to go ahead with the 3 day flush. I really would appreciate instruction on this. I have a friend who can help. I did give her the tablet a couple hours ago of citrate.

 

[Fontaine]

I just wanted to make sure Azygous saw my last reply. I don’t want to rush anyone but I wasn’t sure I should send it to AZygous directly. Thanks

 

[Banana01]

Sorry for the long post. How is her weight now? 2 months is a long time ago to worm and expect 100% worm free. Usually with worms my hens will go to bed with only water in their crops and very small crumbs of food you cant even feel. Then theyll wake up in the morning and fill their crop again with water and maybe a few specs of food. Watery crop and excessive water drinking is definitely a worm sign and impaction sign. You can't rule out worms as the cause of the blockage. Im afraid for how much time has passed, and how slowly the food is moving through her that your limited with options what you can do for her.

A 16 month old hen is fairly resistent to worms, but if there is a blockage it would be really easy to treat for worms again.

If you feel her chest, is her breast bone elevated or puffy at all more than normal? That would indicate a swollen liver, which would also cause a potential blockage. It does sound like the comments in the thread are on the right track towards an impacted gizzard. But a swollen liver can be caused by bacterial or viral infections, toxins, or poor diet and gizzard function.

Be careful stuffing solid foods in her or anything else solid for that matter. You can only put into her what will fit on her crop. So no excessive solids or overfilling with water. Hope she passes whatever is the problem. Plan accordongly what you want in her crop at night. Something to pass the impaction is best. I like the coconut oil idea, it has some nutrients. A little salt or apple cider venegar might be good too as you tried. For me the rest would be water or very little soft food. You dont want to clog her more withh force feeding. Hopefully what she has ingested is going to help clear her gizzard.

 

[Fontaine]

Sorry for the long post. How is her weight now? 2 months is a long time ago to worm and expect 100% worm free. Usually with worms my hens will go to bed with only water in their crops and very small crumbs of food you cant even feel. Then theyll wake up in the morning and fill their crop again with water and maybe a few specs of food. Watery crop and excessive water drinking is definitely a worm sign and impaction sign. You can't rule out worms as the cause of the blockage. Im afraid for how much time has passed, and how slowly the food is moving through her that your limited with options what you can do for her.

A 16 month old hen is fairly resistent to worms, but if there is a blockage it would be really easy to treat for worms again.

If you feel her chest, is her breast bone elevated or puffy at all more than normal? That would indicate a swollen liver, which would also cause a potential blockage. It does sound like the comments in the thread are on the right track towards an impacted gizzard. But a swollen liver can be caused by bacterial or viral infections, toxins, or poor diet and gizzard function.

Be careful stuffing solid foods in her or anything else solid for that matter. You can only put into her what will fit on her crop. So no excessive solids or overfilling with water. Hope she passes whatever is the problem. Plan accordongly what you want in her crop at night. Something to pass the impaction is best. I like the coconut oil idea, it has some nutrients. A little salt or apple cider venegar might be good too as you tried. For me the rest would be water or very little soft food. You dont want to clog her more withh force feeding. Hopefully what she has ingested is going to help clear her gizzard.

Oh I Really appreciate the thorough thread. I never even thought Worms could be the problem Since she was wormed two months ago. But she does free range and eat a lot of soil so it’s possible. I don’t know now if It would stress her to worm her now. Also I wonder if it would be absorbed with her full crop. My next step was to follow instructions how to tube flush her twice a day with Epsom salt. I ‘m beginning to think there is no hope. She is surprisingly alert and seems content to sit in the cage in our kitchen. Otherwise I would end her suffering. This is day 11 of various treatments.

 

[Fontaine]

What is the time span between feeling her crop at night, then first thing in the morning?

Can you get some photos of her and her poop?

She's active right?

That’s all the poop I’ve seen today. She is alert but quiet in her cage. Yesterday I took her outside and she walked around kind of aimlessly .Just wanted to eat dirt so I haven’t taken her out today.

 

[Fontaine]

Sorry for the long post. How is her weight now? 2 months is a long time ago to worm and expect 100% worm free. Usually with worms my hens will go to bed with only water in their crops and very small crumbs of food you cant even feel. Then theyll wake up in the morning and fill their crop again with water and maybe a few specs of food. Watery crop and excessive water drinking is definitely a worm sign and impaction sign. You can't rule out worms as the cause of the blockage. Im afraid for how much time has passed, and how slowly the food is moving through her that your limited with options what you can do for her.

A 16 month old hen is fairly resistent to worms, but if there is a blockage it would be really easy to treat for worms again.

If you feel her chest, is her breast bone elevated or puffy at all more than normal? That would indicate a swollen liver, which would also cause a potential blockage. It does sound like the comments in the thread are on the right track towards an impacted gizzard. But a swollen liver can be caused by bacterial or viral infections, toxins, or poor diet and gizzard function.

Be careful stuffing solid foods in her or anything else solid for that matter. You can only put into her what will fit on her crop. So no excessive solids or overfilling with water. Hope she passes whatever is the problem. Plan accordongly what you want in her crop at night. Something to pass the impaction is best. I like the coconut oil idea, it has some nutrients. A little salt or apple cider venegar might be good too as you tried. For me the rest would be water or very little soft food. You dont want to clog her more withh force feeding. Hopefully what she has ingested is going to help clear her gizzard.

I just checked her breastbone and it seemed normal.