Thanks for posting Raph, I love that they put Pheasant like!! That's it!! what I mean when I say you look at them and they have a wild look to them, I don't term it as gamey really, I guess pheasants are game though, but its just they look natural the way they carry themselves and very alert, "Pheasant like" whew, if only it would of been so easy as that before, to think of pheasant like LOL.
How would we be ruining your reputation, you are the one that says you should breed them bigger, so I am just saying, If your going to show, know your breeds standard and breed to that, don't make them bigger if they are too big you are not breeding to standard. This is not the first site that I have seen someone say breed them bigger, yet they are not a big bird to begin with and I have seen so many other breeds that have grown too big to standard also. I never said any names of any breeder's you were the one throwing the names and saying yours were the same size and yours were 7 and 8 lbs, which is too big. I am saying that I at the shows I have seen Sumatras getting bigger the, bone is heavier, legs are shorter and they are, to me, frumpy looking, more domestic, losing that Pheasant Like look that I like. since they were a more wild type bird to begin with. So I am trying to remind people not to just breed them bigger, but know the standard and breed them accordingly. BG Matt had a great way to weigh your birds, get a little dog kennel and a regular bathroom scale, weigh the kennel without the bird then put the bird in it and deduct empty kennel weight to get your own weight, don't rely on what someone elses birds weigh to determine yours.. weigh your birds, we use a baby scale and my son hypnotizes them on their back on it, works great.well the thing is that I did know if my Sumatra's where over weight or not. I have never weighed them so I was just guessing at first. but my sumatras are about same size as Toms.so I got curious, I called him up to ask him if he weighed his sumatras and he had said he dose. he had said that they are at 5lbs to 4lbs. I think my Sumatras are good now that I know. so sorry if I confused anyone.I told you before what I am breed for and it is what the standard calls for and that is all I can say. I am sure not a backyard breeder or a fad breeder. I am sorry you guys but that was a really mean thing to say to someone especially if it is not true. you need to know what they are breeding for before you start ruining someone's reputation.and that is why I am so upset at this moment.
