Sunken Eye Disqualification ?

[RememberTheWay]

A couple months ago I was listening to the "bred to perfection" podcast. He was going over a list of disqualifications and defects to look for in breeders. One of them he mentioned was something he called "sunken eye" and described basically where the skull comes way further out then the actual eye and causes this sunken ugly appearance. Problem is when I googled this term I didn't see anything. I'm looking for examples so I can make sure I know what this DQ actually looks like. Can someone help please?

 

[Amer]

It's not a DQ but it probably should be. I don't have any pictures though, unfortunately.

 

[Amer]

It can be to an overall unhealthy bird or in some wide skulled breeds the skull is bred too extreme and the eye is sunken in, not a good look.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Sunken eye is a common trait in oriental breeds.

 

[Amer]

Sunken eye is a common trait in oriental breeds.View attachment 3934688

No, that's not what we mean

 

[MysteryChicken]

No, that's not what we mean

The description says in the original post: where the skull comes way further out then the actual eye.
Sounded like the way the eyes in orientals are.
Not talking about beetle brow.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Okay, found what was meant now.
Looks like a wrinkled circle around the eyes. Makes more sense.

 

[RememberTheWay]

It can be to an overall unhealthy bird or in some wide skulled breeds the skull is bred too extreme and the eye is sunken in, not a good look.

I think You understand what I was trying to say but I must not have the terminology right because I can't find any references to it anywhere

Would beetle brow be the same thing?

I don't think what he was referring to had anything to do from swelling due to an acute illness I think it was more about actual skull formation and the position the eyes were set

 

[RememberTheWay]

Okay, found what was meant now.
Looks like a wrinkled circle around the eyes. Makes more sense.View attachment 3934737

I am not sure this is what they were talking about because that is more tissue related and not the skull

 

[MysteryChicken]

I think You understand what I was trying to say but I must not have the terminology right because I can't find any references to it anywhere

Would beetle brow be the same thing?

I don't think what he was referring to had anything to do from swelling due to an acute illness I think it was more about actual skull formation and the position the eyes were set

Beetle brow is actually from breeding in an exaggerated look, & is flesh related, not skull related.
This is a Malay Skull, which looks like a completely normal chicken skull.