Surviving Another Depression.......What Would We Need?

There is a list on at least two threads over on the sister site from here the Sufficient Self.
There is alot of good information about what you will need.
If you check it out, you will see alot of BYC members there.
 
This is the title to one of the threads if you want to go over and look it up. There are more there and the stuff is listed on different pages so i couldn't copy and paste it all.

Emergency Preparedness » Food storage list must haves



And this is something another member posted:

Top 100 Items to Disappear First During a National Emergency

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.)
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Livestock
 
We were seriously into the y2k and still use things we bought for it like:
1.a 1500 gallon above ground plastic water tank.
2.a 1200 gallon cistern buried with rain water from gutters piped to it.
3.had a 1/4 acre pond dug. Stocked with perch.
4. a composting toilet. shred leaves in fall instead of peat moss for it.
5. a wood burning hot water boiler.
6. learned to make my own laundry soap.
7. joined seedsavers for non hybrid seeds.
8. a woodstove.
9. built a wood fired bread oven outside.
10. all hand cranked things like egg beater, foley food mill, meat grinder, grain mill, juicer, garlic press, cheese grater.
10. can produce from garden.
11. recently put in a extra large fireplace to heat room with pipe coils from hearth.
12. This year got chickens.

What I would do different would be 2 buried cisterns instead of the plastic tank.
We use rain water for regular toilet, shower and laundry but in drought run low.
 
This is interesting reading. It looks like some folks are preparing for armageddon rather than an economic problem. My grandparents raised their family during the Depression and, yes, they were lucky to live on a farm and so had plenty to eat. However, their entire civilization did not come crashing down. Remember, in the words of my dad "no matter how bad the news, the sun will still come up tomorrow morning." It's a comforting thought.
 
I heard my first story of a family living in a tent! But, I don't think it's going to be Armegedon. The power will still stay on, it'll just be better to use less of it. You'll still be able to get all the food you want, it just might be too expensive for many.
 
We are planning to put in an earthoven in back next spring. DH just finished the RR tie stairs, now he needs to build a bench , firepit, telescope pad, smoker pad and put gravel back down. Over the winter we will be designing the oven and buying supplies. I will be use that more than my indoor oven, it will be great!

Monica
 
Wood
Guns
Ammo
Traps
Knife
Chickens
Cows
Pigs
Goats
Vegtable seeds
Tools(saw, hammer, nails, etc)
Clear Mountain stream

And I would be good to go!
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Have you ever actually used one on a regular basis? I want it mostly for bread baking and for the fact that our electrical bill is outrageous! I am having my Dad come down this month for a visit and help us build one also. What books have you found most useful on the building? There are several on Amazon that I am considering. Thanks in advance
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