Surviving Minnesota!

[Minniechickmama]

Why I didn't have Spotify til 5 minutes ago is beyond me!!

I LOVE Green Day! Did you know they are releasing a new song on the 11th BANG BANG?

 

[Minniechickmama]

For anyone that got SS from me. If you are going to show them check the combs. I just found out 2 of them I sold had spurs on the base of the comb. I knew my BA have them and never sell them to show, I had not seen it on my SS, but I may not have looked close enough. I will be checking all my SS in the next few days. If they have a spur they will be joining the camp bus.

I just want you all to know. Sorry if this cause any of you any grief. I cannot believe I missed this time to get stronger glasses and go on a spur hunt.

You're referring to something called side sprigs, and they might not show up enough to notice until they are almost mature. They do disqualify for that, as I found out when I missed seeing the ones on a Black Orpington a couple of years ago and found out when I was clerking with the judge who wrote DQ on the tag. I was slightly embarrassed.

 

[Minniechickmama]

My daughter showed the 2 SS in question for both 4H and open class. She was Disqualified in Open Class due to the comb with side sprigs. (One on each of the birds.) As fate would have it we actually purchased 3 SS from Ralphie on this occasion and 3 turned out to be cockerels. So we re-homed one cockerel to my father-in-law who lives next door to us. So immediately after the fair, I went to check out his SS cockerel, and sure enough he does NOT have a side sprig.

I really would like to know the genetics of comb sprigs, as the judge was very adament about not breeding them for show. According to the judge if the rooster has a sprig and you use him for breeding 50% of your year one roosters will have sprig and 100% of your year 2 roosters will have sprig. I am intrigued by this and I would love for anyone to shed some light on this genetics issue. These birds are such beautiful birds and I don't want to send them to the freezer, and I want to help Ralphie out as well.


Edited: I accidentally used the word spur instead of Side Sprig.

Considering where you are showing, I am sure that the judge was well qualified and knows what he is talking about in regards to no breeding it. If any bird has a disqualifying trait, they should be pulled from breeding.

 

[Minniechickmama]

This is so random.....

Does anybody on here have Peacocks?

Only the neighbor's India Blue that wandered into my yard, but he flew off over the corn field and I haven't seen him since

 

[duluthralphie]

Minnie I had asked MnChick in a PM around 2;30 if he could have said sprig instead of spur. I do have a little spur on a couple of the BA's but they are just production birds. They are not really a sprig as they come out of the base and look like a mini horn.

I am sure the judge is a good judge and knows what he is talking about. I do question his 50% of f1 and 100% of F2 having the sprigs. Punnett square does not back that up.



















I am going to change roosters next year. I may even change hens. I have been thinking of changing anyways. The rooster I am thinking of keeping is older than Mnchicks kids roosters. I plan to show him in Hutch so that will give me a better idea. My breeder Birds do not have the sprigs so they must have them as a recessive. If that is the case 50% of mine carry a recessive sprig gene and 25% should express it. 25% should be clean of it. I am crossing my fingers the younger rooster is in the 25%. He is a much better looking rooster than his Dad.

I am so paranoid for side sprigs now, I plan to check everyone out! They are not going to be happy with me.

 

[MNChickMom]

Minnie I had asked MnChick in a PM around 2;30 if he could have said sprig instead of spur. I do have a little spur on a couple of the BA's but they are just production birds. They are not really a sprig as they come out of the base and look like a mini horn.

I am sure the judge is a good judge and knows what he is talking about. I do question his 50% of f1 and 100% of F2 having the sprigs. Punnett square does not back that up.



















I am going to change roosters next year. I may even change hens. I have been thinking of changing anyways. The rooster I am thinking of keeping is older than Mnchicks kids roosters. I plan to show him in Hutch so that will give me a better idea. My breeder Birds do not have the sprigs so they must have them as a recessive. If that is the case 50% of mine carry a recessive sprig gene and 25% should express it. 25% should be clean of it. I am crossing my fingers the younger rooster is in the 25%. He is a much better looking rooster than his Dad.

I am so paranoid for side sprigs now, I plan to check everyone out! They are not going to be happy with me.

YES The judge said Side SPRIG on Comb and my fingers typed spur. IT WAS SPRIG. I don't know enough about genetics yet to comment on the percentages.Let me make it very clear.....everyone who passed by their cages commented on their beauty. Photos of the sprigs are too come. I'm at work now.

 

[duluthralphie]

I attempted to do a putor generated Punnett Square.

I am not that savvy so here they are:

Where S is a Sprig and N is no Sprig....


You can see only 50% would have the sprigs. If the other parent did not have the gene for the sprig the offspring would have the gene in a recessive spot and not express it....Unless I am really missing something here. (Like Sprigs are dominant)..

With the parents of Mnchicks rooster I have





I am shooting for the 25%!!! I am also hoping only one hen has the sprig gene which will make my odds of being sprig free even higher.(50%).


Now I have confused you all, right?

 

[bantiesrule]

This is so random.....

Does anybody on here have Peacocks?

My sister raises them. Are you looking for some or just have some questions?

 

[holm25]

I have two birds with side sprigs. Lucky the barred mutt rooster and a young barred cockerel. I assume Lucky must be the dad if hes my only bird with side sprigs? That and the young cockerel is growing some red leakage just like his big papa. I really like them both. But Lucky is being a bit of a butt lately

And Ralphie I think i have a young guinea from your evil female. I have 1 young pearl who sleeps on the roof!! If its doing this at its young age wait till its an adult! Yikes...

 

[MinnesotaNice]

My sister raises them. Are you looking for some or just have some questions?

I actually just have a feed question. I'm feeding them medicated feed and dried mealworms on the side for added protein. Is that sufficient?

Does your sister have a lot of peacocks? I'm enjoying them so far, but they're also little =)