Swedish Flower Hen Thread

I have 1 POL SFH pullet from eggs this past spring from CarolJ (great eggs, great hatch, very bad fox)

I also just this past wkend hatched out 3 SFH from eggs from Papabrooder.

(Saddly KYTinpusher non of the the ones from you hatched, I totally blame the sorting station in OH, it was a repeat of my spring w/ shipped eggs that went that way, all shells fine, all eggs horrible inside, sloshy, half started half didn't then none hatched, major bummer).

Anyway, here is the thing--
I saw the note on GFF about 1 of their breeder birds having a toe issue which they think was _not genetic, but I've also seen a few posts of BYC re some SFH chicks w/ "toe issues".

Of my 3, the last to hatch has a toe issue which looks completely different than any I have ever seen b/f.
In other chicks esp. late ones or ones w/ humidity at hatch problems I've seen curled toes / balled up feet etc.

This SFH has perfect toes except that the inside toe on each foot, at the halfway point of its length is being held at a 90degree angle so it points toward the other foot, this is identically mirrored on each foot, the inner toes point at each other and look like someone intentionally broke them and bent them to point at each other. Sooo, any of you who have had toe issues w/ SFH chicks, did they look like basic balled up toes, or did they look like this odd broke in half point inward on both feet situation?

Also, did those birds do ok ? (I know about making boots to fix it etc, that isn't what I mean, I mean were the SFH chicks "w/toe issues" otherwise healthy and grow up to be healthy & productive, or were they like those once in awhile "not quite right" chicks that never grow & die around day 4-5, trying to brace myself in case, or if I find I need to cull... )

a picture would be nice? I've never had any sfh with toe issues, tho I have had a few 'swi' chicks... (something wrong inside) I've heard others call them JAR chicks. lol just ain't right.
 
I have 1 POL SFH pullet from eggs this past spring from CarolJ (great eggs, great hatch, very bad fox)

I also just this past wkend hatched out 3 SFH from eggs from Papabrooder.

(Saddly KYTinpusher non of the the ones from you hatched, I totally blame the sorting station in OH, it was a repeat of my spring w/ shipped eggs that went that way, all shells fine, all eggs horrible inside, sloshy, half started half didn't then none hatched, major bummer).

Anyway, here is the thing--
I saw the note on GFF about 1 of their breeder birds having a toe issue which they think was _not genetic, but I've also seen a few posts of BYC re some SFH chicks w/ "toe issues".

Of my 3, the last to hatch has a toe issue which looks completely different than any I have ever seen b/f.
In other chicks esp. late ones or ones w/ humidity at hatch problems I've seen curled toes / balled up feet etc.

This SFH has perfect toes except that the inside toe on each foot, at the halfway point of its length is being held at a 90degree angle so it points toward the other foot, this is identically mirrored on each foot, the inner toes point at each other and look like someone intentionally broke them and bent them to point at each other. Sooo, any of you who have had toe issues w/ SFH chicks, did they look like basic balled up toes, or did they look like this odd broke in half point inward on both feet situation?

Also, did those birds do ok ? (I know about making boots to fix it etc, that isn't what I mean, I mean were the SFH chicks "w/toe issues" otherwise healthy and grow up to be healthy & productive, or were they like those once in awhile "not quite right" chicks that never grow & die around day 4-5, trying to brace myself in case, or if I find I need to cull... )
I had one SFH boy hatch that had a "sideways" toe. I had one chick that I bought that grew up to have all his toes "sideways" - he was an AM. Curly (the SHF) is growing along with everybody else (its an outside toe, not the inner one and it now points almost straight back like a V). He has no problem perching or eating or running around with the rest. He was never unhealthy as a chick - but I tried the shoes and it did not straighten out. In his case it did not appear broken, he can flex that toe - it just flexes sideways instead of down like the rest of the toes. He was not a "not quite right" chick, but I will not use him for breeding just in case it is hereditary... and not incubation issues.
 
Our first hatch from KYTinpusher was AMAZING! The second set, not so much, lots of malpositions (thanks USPS for the jostling), and some that had vaulted skulls (which I do understand is a thing that can happen in crested birds). Don't blame her AT ALL! Just sad after having such a great hatch (which I sold to someone who lost a lot of hers) the first time. But since my city has now changed the chicken rules, I guess it's for the better....again, living through you guys! DH and I want several acres within the next few years (when our lease is up), and will get a whole mess of these birds, as we COMPLETELY fell in love with our first little chicks, and since I like the sassy, independent nature of these birds. We will get some more eggs from KYTinpusher then if she's still doing them (I hope so!), I was so happy with them! One of my Salmon Favs has a crooked toe on each foot, also identicle from one foot to the next, but since they aren't breeding and she is just perfect otherwise, it is okay with me. Good luck with your little crook toe!
 
This is certainly off topic but a friend sent this to me and it is just too good not to share.

This is just too good not to share with the BYC chicken community!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLwML2PagbY&feature=youtu.be


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This SFH has perfect toes except that the inside toe on each foot, at the halfway point of its length is being held at a 90degree angle so it points toward the other foot, this is identically mirrored on each foot, the inner toes point at each other and look like someone intentionally broke them and bent them to point at each other. Sooo, any of you who have had toe issues w/ SFH chicks, did they look like basic balled up toes, or did they look like this odd broke in half point inward on both feet situation?

Also, did those birds do ok ? (I know about making boots to fix it etc, that isn't what I mean, I mean were the SFH chicks "w/toe issues" otherwise healthy and grow up to be healthy & productive, or were they like those once in awhile "not quite right" chicks that never grow & die around day 4-5, trying to brace myself in case, or if I find I need to cull... )
I had a chick in my original group of seven that hatched with all of his toes as you describe. I really didn't expect him to survive because both feet were so severely twisted. I did keep him until he was almost a year old because he was so pretty. He grew along with everyone else with no issues, and no special care. His only problem was that he couldn't roost on the roost, he would just sit on top of the nest boxes. I did cull him eventually, because I would not use him for breeding, and he was fighting with the other roosters. All in all, he walked really funny, and couldn't roost with the others, but really didn't seem to be affected much. I wouldn't use a rooster with those defects for breeding though.
 

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