Swedish Flower Hen Thread

They can go directly into the incubator with the turner turned off for the first 24 hours.

Also you need to google "Dry hatch method" and look for articles on this method for difficult to hatch breeds - it works MUCH better for Swedish Flowers than other methods.

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Okay good to hear, I wanted to try and get them started as soon as possible since it's likely been a few days since they were laid.

My first batch of eggs (local) I didn't add any water to the incubator because it's very humid were I live. Room humidity rarely drops below 55% in the summer. Even without water my humidity levels were 45%-65% until a couple days before lockdown when it dipped to 25% at one point. I added a little water at lockdown and it ended up around 65%. At hatch I only had two eggs out of 10 that looked like they might have lost too much moisture because they had enormous air cells and didn't pip.

This time around I will probably leave out the water until lockdown again, but I will log average weight to make sure I'm on the right track.
 
That's good to know! I would love a couple more SFH, will try dry incubation next go around or I will wait until my pullets become broody hens and try it the old fashioned way. Any guess from you @Bulldogma about how my baby will feather out?
 
My eggs arrived, none broken. :) About half with detached aircells though, so I'll leave them big end up in a carton for 48 hours before I reevaluate and start turning.

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Ki4got or ??

I have a genetics question, or maybe it's more of a thought I had and wondered what you guys thought. I know almost nothing about genetics of chickens (or of most animals, plants I know a bit) except what I've read here and a few other places. Please excuse me if this has been covered and I missed it. I'm trying to read the whole thread 50 pages at a time working backwards, but wow it's a lot of information! :pop
So, in regards to Bulldogmas Snoleopard and Magnus, it looks like now there are at least three SFH with this pattern/coloring, :drool , and maybe more hatching every day, :jumpy is it possible that the pattern, which is a perfect camouflage pattern for winter in snowy areas, is coming out in the birds in North America that are being raised and bred in areas that are a tad cooler in the winter , (i.e. Actual Snow on the ground )than the original imports were over in Florida? ( I thought I read that Sweden did not send any birds with this pattern to the states) . Could the red muting gene that causes this be triggered by snow in the birds environment?
I know in plants like peach trees and peonies for example, if they don't have the required "chill" time they will not fruit/bloom. Could the same environmental triggers be at work here?
It's just a thought I had. I am completely in love with this breed, and Astolf and Magnus are such Beautiful Roos! (ok, I'm a tiny bit Norwegian too, so that helps, if that makes sense) I am hoping I Will get some SFH breeding stock next spring, just NOT until my coop is finished. :fl
Thanks.
 
Ki4got or ??

I have a genetics question, or maybe it's more of a thought I had and wondered what you guys thought. I know almost nothing about genetics of chickens (or of most animals, plants I know a bit) except what I've read here and a few other places. Please excuse me if this has been covered and I missed it. I'm trying to read the whole thread 50 pages at a time working backwards, but wow it's a lot of information!
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So, in regards to Bulldogmas Snoleopard and Magnus, it looks like now there are at least three SFH with this pattern/coloring,
droolin.gif
, and maybe more hatching every day,
jumpy.gif
is it possible that the pattern, which is a perfect camouflage pattern for winter in snowy areas, is coming out in the birds in North America that are being raised and bred in areas that are a tad cooler in the winter , (i.e. Actual Snow on the ground )than the original imports were over in Florida? ( I thought I read that Sweden did not send any birds with this pattern to the states) . Could the red muting gene that causes this be triggered by snow in the birds environment?
I know in plants like peach trees and peonies for example, if they don't have the required "chill" time they will not fruit/bloom. Could the same environmental triggers be at work here?
It's just a thought I had. I am completely in love with this breed, and Astolf and Magnus are such Beautiful Roos! (ok, I'm a tiny bit Norwegian too, so that helps, if that makes sense) I am hoping I Will get some SFH breeding stock next spring, just NOT until my coop is finished.
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Thanks.

no, it's not really a matter of form following function... there are a number of breeders in Sweden with this coloration as well, I believe. Leigh could verify this, she's researched it a bit more.

as for the genetics, it's yet to be proven 100% with Leigh's birds, but I BELIEVE it is a dominant dilute (Di) mutation that simply restricts the expression of red pigmentation. similar to the effect seen in cream legbars (ig), lemon blues (Cb I think), etc. (different mutations are involved in each to give the overall effect, but with similar results on the red pigments).
 
Chipper Chicken -
From what I understand from some contacts in Sweden and Denmark, this coloration is not very common there either. It has popped up in the UK a few times.

And I have GREAT news everyone!

Drum roll please...



Magnus is now mounting and successfully breeding hens! (He was a bit of a late bloomer.)


And while we have just finished the pens on the inside of the new coop, I'm currently out of funds to erect the outdoor run portion - and I don't want to put a breeding group in a pen without an outdoor run.

Hopefully I can sell some more eggs and chicks soon and pay for the materials for a pen - because then we'll have snoleopard x snoleopard eggs!!!!!
 
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Bulldogma,
That's great! I can't wait to see what their babies look like! That REALLY is a wonderful / unusual pattern! So very happy you can breed these and I'm wishing you nothing but success!!! :weee

Ki4got,
thank you for your reply too. I'm just in awe that these colors HAVE popped up here. Double
:weee
 

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