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sometimes I am pretty dense.
sometimes I am pretty dense.
Teacher Writes "Loser" On Students Assignments....
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sometimes I am pretty dense.
nah..i dont think so. Sometimes i'm just obtuse... or is that obese...? I can never remember which it is....
sometimes I am pretty dense.
nah..i dont think so. Sometimes i'm just obtuse... or is that obese...? I can never remember which it is....
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no. at least, not this forced acceptance..i hate it that everyone is expected to just accept anything and everything and everyone. it wont work in the long run.
its just another form of control over society really.
let me rephrase that then- don't you want to be accepted? I think everyone does. Why should only some people be worthy of being accepted?
I think it is sad that there are people who think intolerance is preferable to just learning to live and let live.
but its not that simple...i personally couldnt care less what someones personal agenda is but when i am told that i have to accept it, that is a different story. i think personal choice is far more important than across the board acceptance.
no. at least, not this forced acceptance..i hate it that everyone is expected to just accept anything and everything and everyone. it wont work in the long run.
its just another form of control over society really.
let me rephrase that then- don't you want to be accepted? I think everyone does. Why should only some people be worthy of being accepted?
I think it is sad that there are people who think intolerance is preferable to just learning to live and let live.
but its not that simple...i personally couldnt care less what someones personal agenda is but when i am told that i have to accept it, that is a different story. i think personal choice is far more important than across the board acceptance.
The teacher needs to find another way of relating to his students... one that provides a positive example of how to interact with others. As a teacher myself, I am embarassed when my peers act in such an unprofessional manner. We are supposed to provide positive examples.
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I don't think there is a right or wrong here. I have my beliefs and you have yours. I find it interesting hearing other people's beliefs.
And I never waste one second of my time worrying about what color nail polish other people wear. Who cares?
LOL..you missed my point...
Its okay..
I know.. sometimes it's hard to be both flippant and slightly sarcastic at the same time over the internet. If they saw your evil leer, and Mike Rowe waving to be let out from your basement windows they'd understand better.
I don't think there is a right or wrong here. I have my beliefs and you have yours. I find it interesting hearing other people's beliefs.
And I never waste one second of my time worrying about what color nail polish other people wear. Who cares?
LOL..you missed my point...
Its okay..
I know.. sometimes it's hard to be both flippant and slightly sarcastic at the same time over the internet. If they saw your evil leer, and Mike Rowe waving to be let out from your basement windows they'd understand better.
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Yup, my paternal grandmother ran a restaurant. My maternal grandmother worked in a bakery and then got a good job at Xerox. Neither were domestic goddesses or slaves. I didn't know my Dad's mother very well because she died when I was little. As far as my other Grandma, it was probably Gandpa that had to tow the line or pay the price. She was a strong woman.
Yup, my paternal grandmother ran a restaurant. My maternal grandmother worked in a bakery and then got a good job at Xerox. Neither were domestic goddesses or slaves. I didn't know my Dad's mother very well because she died when I was little. As far as my other Grandma, it was probably Gandpa that had to tow the line or pay the price. She was a strong woman.
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The '40's were a wonderful time. Folks didn't grab guns or knives to settle their differences. They used their fists and then bought each other a draft and forgave and forgot. Now a days is a lot scarier.
So were the 60's. Guys had a difference, their buddies kept the other guys back and the two of them duked it out, shook hands when it was over and got on with it. We sure can't do that now. . .I personally think we live in sad times. The Bible speaks of "days of sorrow." I definitely see a pattern here.
The '40's were a wonderful time. Folks didn't grab guns or knives to settle their differences. They used their fists and then bought each other a draft and forgave and forgot. Now a days is a lot scarier.
So were the 60's. Guys had a difference, their buddies kept the other guys back and the two of them duked it out, shook hands when it was over and got on with it. We sure can't do that now. . .I personally think we live in sad times. The Bible speaks of "days of sorrow." I definitely see a pattern here.
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Your little rant hit the nail right on the head. I quit watching the news, can't stand the way people are verbally attacked and it goes on and on and on . . .I don't associate with people much anymore, because I can't stand the double standards. I have a teacher's conference today at 2, and i have a feeling I am walking out of there with a teacher who is not going to be happy. She is good as gold, was even teacher of the year a couple of years ago, BUT she tells the boys in the class that "girls are great, and you are just boys" or something to that effect, and that "she would never hit you" when DS has a red mark on his face from getting plastered with a four square ball BY a girl . . .no one is allowed to tell their side of the story, so whoever gets to the teacher first or tattles first is the winner, and I am tired of it. I already told DS if he gets in trouble, I won't get him out of his punishment, but if there are other kids involved and they are the tattlers, then it better be a universal punishment, or I'm comin' in. DS took a dentension for something he honestly did not start, was just defending himself, but the other kid saw the teacher just in the nick of time starting to look, grabbed his head and CRIED so DS took the fall. Another little boy was standing there and saw the whole thing, but by the time his mom got to me it was over and done with, but don't think I am telling her the TRUE story today. DS said he was told if he tried to talk when in the Principals office, he would get ANOTHER detention. I have a thing about being fair, and letting everyone tell their side of the story, and this was just not right. I realize that teacher's get distressed over big classes (not so with DS's, he only has 17) but they were looking for a job when they got that one, so if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. . .I could go on and on. Sorry, didn't mean to make this such a rant, but boy, do I get tired of unfairness in the school systems.
Your little rant hit the nail right on the head. I quit watching the news, can't stand the way people are verbally attacked and it goes on and on and on . . .I don't associate with people much anymore, because I can't stand the double standards. I have a teacher's conference today at 2, and i have a feeling I am walking out of there with a teacher who is not going to be happy. She is good as gold, was even teacher of the year a couple of years ago, BUT she tells the boys in the class that "girls are great, and you are just boys" or something to that effect, and that "she would never hit you" when DS has a red mark on his face from getting plastered with a four square ball BY a girl . . .no one is allowed to tell their side of the story, so whoever gets to the teacher first or tattles first is the winner, and I am tired of it. I already told DS if he gets in trouble, I won't get him out of his punishment, but if there are other kids involved and they are the tattlers, then it better be a universal punishment, or I'm comin' in. DS took a dentension for something he honestly did not start, was just defending himself, but the other kid saw the teacher just in the nick of time starting to look, grabbed his head and CRIED so DS took the fall. Another little boy was standing there and saw the whole thing, but by the time his mom got to me it was over and done with, but don't think I am telling her the TRUE story today. DS said he was told if he tried to talk when in the Principals office, he would get ANOTHER detention. I have a thing about being fair, and letting everyone tell their side of the story, and this was just not right. I realize that teacher's get distressed over big classes (not so with DS's, he only has 17) but they were looking for a job when they got that one, so if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. . .I could go on and on. Sorry, didn't mean to make this such a rant, but boy, do I get tired of unfairness in the school systems.
WW I know what you mean about that type of situation. As a kid I was stuck in that kind class. I was on/off friends with someone who was teased about being friends with a white girl. Then she would be mean to me. The teacher just flat out wouldn't believe what happened. "Well I know ___ and she just wouldn't do ___." At that point she learned she could get away with anything.
What saved me was when we got a teaching assistant who sat in the back and observed. I had learned to take what ever was dished out and not respond. Although the teacher wouldn't believe me and took the other girl's side, the teaching assistant talked with the teacher in private and straightened things out.
What saved me was when we got a teaching assistant who sat in the back and observed. I had learned to take what ever was dished out and not respond. Although the teacher wouldn't believe me and took the other girl's side, the teaching assistant talked with the teacher in private and straightened things out.
Whispering Winds, you are so right. All too often schools or teachers don't take time to find out the whole story or punish only some of the offenders. As we told our sons many times, it's often not the first punch/shove/slap that is seen, but the response to it. Sometimes everyone deserves punishment, sometimes no one, and sometimes some of the participants. However, if you cannot get a straight story from everyone and determine fault, then everyone involved should be treated the same.
And it should never be a case of the first person being allowed to tell their side, and is the only one believed when stories don't match. Telling the truth is undervalued. Studies have backed this up--situational ethics is the norm rather than the exception. People think it is okay to lie when they "need" to--so that they don't get in trouble, so that they can get a better grade, so that they are the one selected, .... and on and on. Look at the number of folks who comment in the legal section that they have chickens illegally and hide them or lie about having them, or encourage others to do so--and think that it's okay.
If your son's teacher were so biased for boys and against girls, she would be getting in huge amounts of trouble for discrimination. Being biased for girls should be the same. Since she did not believe your son when he had a red mark on his face, it sounds like she is specifically predjudiced against him, or her gender bias was showing, If you cannot get satisfactory answers, and an apology to your son at your conference, I strongly suggest talking to the principal and moving your son to another class. Talent at teaching the academics is only one part of an elementary teacher's job requirements--you need to look at the long term negative effects this teacher could have on your son.
And it should never be a case of the first person being allowed to tell their side, and is the only one believed when stories don't match. Telling the truth is undervalued. Studies have backed this up--situational ethics is the norm rather than the exception. People think it is okay to lie when they "need" to--so that they don't get in trouble, so that they can get a better grade, so that they are the one selected, .... and on and on. Look at the number of folks who comment in the legal section that they have chickens illegally and hide them or lie about having them, or encourage others to do so--and think that it's okay.
If your son's teacher were so biased for boys and against girls, she would be getting in huge amounts of trouble for discrimination. Being biased for girls should be the same. Since she did not believe your son when he had a red mark on his face, it sounds like she is specifically predjudiced against him, or her gender bias was showing, If you cannot get satisfactory answers, and an apology to your son at your conference, I strongly suggest talking to the principal and moving your son to another class. Talent at teaching the academics is only one part of an elementary teacher's job requirements--you need to look at the long term negative effects this teacher could have on your son.
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