This won't help you much, because these are older guys, but this is what was done to reform my two nephews.
My one nephew (who my parents adopted after my sister died) tried the 'social services' threat to my mom. She got a wicked grin on her face and said, "Well, if I'm going to jail, honey, its going to be for maiming you before I KILL YOU!" That ended that. She meant it, and he knew it!
But then my mother died. So the nephews (2 brothers) lost two mothers - my sister and their grandmother. They lost my Mom while one was a Jr in high school and one was a freshman. My dad has really struggled with them because he was dealing with the grief of Mom's death while dealing with two young men who were grieving, teenagers and Dad had no heart for discipline. He let them run roughshod over him and this was hard to break once they got older.
They graduated and were mooching off of him, mouthing off to him and treating him very badly - I'd have been ashamed to treat my dad like that! No jobs, coming and going when they pleased with no concerns for my dad, and if he left the house to go hunting for a weekend, they partied & trashed it. He would also wake up in the morning and discover that one or the other had a girl up in their room over night, which he expressly forbid. They'd lie to him too.
The day my dad announced that they were expected to pay $200 rent/utilities a month from now on, the older one gave my dad some serious lip about it using words I would not want to see in print let alone say outloud, and the younger one snidely told him to try and collect it.
So, after a long chat with me, Dad got tougher. Canceled cell phones, canceled computer services, canceled cable TV (just basic channel services) He kept no food in the house except what he was going to eat for his next meal (which was a pain for him but worked to keep the young men out looking for jobs. No job, no money, no money, no food! Hunger is a magical teacher.)
The oldest had a job within a week and a few days after his first paycheck was complaining about the cost of a bag of groceries!
The younger one is considering the Coast Guard and doing odd jobs to get enough to get his next meal. Both paid their $200 rent/utilities because Dad reminded them I'd be over to move their crap out onto the porch otherwise regardless of the snow & ice on the ground.
I also told Dad - if either mouths off to you again, gives you the slightest lip or calls you names, disrespects you or your new lady friend or wrecks the house while you are out, shouts at you or treats you badly, do what Mom would have done (channel her!) Just go upstairs, open the bedroom window and begin tossing everything that young man owns out the second story window over the hill into the woods! Start with his electronics. Then tell him he is OUT - he can sleep in his car, or in the woods, but he is OUT NOW and will not be allowed back in for any reason and when he leaves, change the locks on the doors. That will end that. He told them what I said, and that he was going to do it with my help and their uncle's help. The mouthiness ended real fast, 'cause I emailed 'em to let them know I was going to come over with my large husband and help Dad do it!
The funny thing is the older brother now wants to get his own apartment and is working out the details with his best friend and working overtime to get his deposit & pay his other bills. When my dad asked him, "Are you taking your brother with you?" the older one said, "Heck no! he doesn't have a job and how is he going to pay rent & utilities?"
edited because a smiley wasn't smiling again
My one nephew (who my parents adopted after my sister died) tried the 'social services' threat to my mom. She got a wicked grin on her face and said, "Well, if I'm going to jail, honey, its going to be for maiming you before I KILL YOU!" That ended that. She meant it, and he knew it!
But then my mother died. So the nephews (2 brothers) lost two mothers - my sister and their grandmother. They lost my Mom while one was a Jr in high school and one was a freshman. My dad has really struggled with them because he was dealing with the grief of Mom's death while dealing with two young men who were grieving, teenagers and Dad had no heart for discipline. He let them run roughshod over him and this was hard to break once they got older.
They graduated and were mooching off of him, mouthing off to him and treating him very badly - I'd have been ashamed to treat my dad like that! No jobs, coming and going when they pleased with no concerns for my dad, and if he left the house to go hunting for a weekend, they partied & trashed it. He would also wake up in the morning and discover that one or the other had a girl up in their room over night, which he expressly forbid. They'd lie to him too.
The day my dad announced that they were expected to pay $200 rent/utilities a month from now on, the older one gave my dad some serious lip about it using words I would not want to see in print let alone say outloud, and the younger one snidely told him to try and collect it.
So, after a long chat with me, Dad got tougher. Canceled cell phones, canceled computer services, canceled cable TV (just basic channel services) He kept no food in the house except what he was going to eat for his next meal (which was a pain for him but worked to keep the young men out looking for jobs. No job, no money, no money, no food! Hunger is a magical teacher.)
The oldest had a job within a week and a few days after his first paycheck was complaining about the cost of a bag of groceries!

I also told Dad - if either mouths off to you again, gives you the slightest lip or calls you names, disrespects you or your new lady friend or wrecks the house while you are out, shouts at you or treats you badly, do what Mom would have done (channel her!) Just go upstairs, open the bedroom window and begin tossing everything that young man owns out the second story window over the hill into the woods! Start with his electronics. Then tell him he is OUT - he can sleep in his car, or in the woods, but he is OUT NOW and will not be allowed back in for any reason and when he leaves, change the locks on the doors. That will end that. He told them what I said, and that he was going to do it with my help and their uncle's help. The mouthiness ended real fast, 'cause I emailed 'em to let them know I was going to come over with my large husband and help Dad do it!
The funny thing is the older brother now wants to get his own apartment and is working out the details with his best friend and working overtime to get his deposit & pay his other bills. When my dad asked him, "Are you taking your brother with you?" the older one said, "Heck no! he doesn't have a job and how is he going to pay rent & utilities?"

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