Terrain theory or germ theory??

[WestTNriverrat]

This feels like to me round earth vs flat earth.
I’m agree immune system health is important but to think the bubonic plague could be explained by anything other than germ theory is absurd.

 

[Brooks_]

This feels like to me round earth vs flat earth.
I’m agree immune system health is important but to think the bubonic plague could be explained by anything other than germ theory is absurd.

The world is not black and white..

 

[TheAlrightyGina]

Bacteria and viruses, such as chicken pox exist and are transmittable. Flu and covid originate from within. A response to other toxins,. Do not concern yourself with my hand washing...we will never meet.

Okay okay I think I get what you're saying. You're saying that disease begins inside but not the things that cause them, like bacteria and viruses. The microbe gets in you and gets all comfy and then your body's response is the disease. Seems pretty inline with Germ Theory in my opinion.

I am not concerned with your hand washing, I just want to know if you do it since you are a proponent of a theory that doesn't support the reason that people wash their hands. Heck, the guy that suggested doctors should wash their hands before operating on people died in an insane asylum after having a mental breakdown because proponents of things like terrain theory thought the idea was ridiculous.

 

[TheAlrightyGina]

Also, forgive my confusion, but what makes influenza and coronavirus different from other viruses? Are you trying to say that they both exist but they don't infect people and/or aren't transmissible? Or what, exactly? This terrain theory seems kinda wishy washy to me. If you're gonna draw a line in the sand you shouldn't straddle the dang thing.

 

[Brooks_]

Okay okay I think I get what you're saying. You're saying that disease begins inside but not the things that cause them, like bacteria and viruses. The microbe gets in you and gets all comfy and then your body's response is the disease. Seems pretty inline with Germ Theory in my opinion.

I am not concerned with your hand washing, I just want to know if you do it since you are a proponent of a theory that doesn't support the reason that people wash their hands. Heck, the guy that suggested doctors should wash their hands before operating on people died in an insane asylum after having a mental breakdown because proponents of things like terrain theory thought the idea was ridiculous.

No, I'm saying flu like originates from within. You can't give me the flu or covid. You could give me chicken pox or shingles both are external. I wash my hand because there are external things, just as I wash cutting boards.

 

[Brooks_]

Also, forgive my confusion, but what makes influenza and coronavirus different from other viruses? Are you trying to say that they both exist but they don't infect people and/or aren't transmissible? Or what, exactly? This terrain theory seems kinda wishy washy to me. If you're gonna draw a line in the sand you shouldn't straddle the dang thing.

It is not as black and white as that. I cook my chicken too.

 

[Brooks_]

Get your shot, I don't care. Just don't make it like I have to do something to protect you. Asymptotically speaking, of course.

Not you you, general public you.

 

[CarpCharacin]

Endogenous retroviruses do exist, but the coronavirus and flu aren't endogenous. If they were, they'd be detectable in the genome.

 

[TheAlrightyGina]

Get your shot, I don't care. Just don't make it like I have to do something to protect you. Asymptotically speaking, of course.

Not you you, general public you.

Ah, so you don't actually support terrain theory then, because all of what you have said pretty much is against terrain theory. You simply don't want to get the vaccine. No need to be shy about it! I'm guessing someone or some organization has co-opted innocent old nutbar terrain theory for reasons far removed from actually supporting it. Which...honestly, phew. Can you not see the cognitive dissonance there? Diseases aren't caused by microbes, but the body/environment...except for these diseases whose existence we support like chicken pox and shingles (caused by the same virus, incidentally). Can't pick and choose these things if you're going to come out as a terrain theorist!

Friend, if you're gonna drink the koolaid, you aught to at least know the flavor.

 

[TheAlrightyGina]

Endogenous retroviruses do exist, but the coronavirus and flu aren't endogenous. If they were, they'd be detectable in the genome.

Ah, retroviruses. That is a rabbit hole topic right there.