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Thank you, I will look into the Wazine a little more to see if it will even cover what we think might be going on. My husband wanted to use the goat dewormer on them but I had him hold off because I was afraid of giving it to them orally and causing them to aspirate it. I was hoping to find something a little 'safer' to use but for treatment, I couldn't find many options. I thought about getting the kind for cattle that's a pour on but didn't know if I would be able to work out a safe dosage.

Madison hasn't shown any signs of improvement but its only been 10 hours. Hopefully by morning she will be a little better, if not I will have to take her in. I really wish vets still did house calls. I don't like the idea of taking an already sick puppy to a place filled with germs...

How's the situation with the animals?
 
How's the situation with the animals?


Madison is doing better. I'm not sure on Maverick. We only got 1 egg today from 7 girls. I'm sure it will take a couple of days to notice anything with them. If things don't perk up with them, I will look into using something else.

The change with Madison is enough to make me feel like we are on the right track. Now prevention after treatment is my next concern. Plus, I'm not sure when to retreat and if the girls start laying good again, treating them a second time and throwing out another 2 weeks worth of eggs will be disappointing. I know their health is what's important and taking care of it all at once is ideal but throwing out eggs seems so counterproductive.
 
oh depending on the circumstances their may be meds to help with it, but it is all incurable


IBS is un-curable, but can be managed. I have it, and I am lactose intolerant on top of that. But I manage mine through diet, and some meds. My IBS is not as severe as others, but for me, I have found that a meat heavy diet makes it worse, so I eat small portions of meat (chicken and beef, no pork) and lots of fruits and veggies. I still have random bouts with IBS, but when I eat a lot of meat or dairy I know I will have trouble later.
Maybe you can try diet changes and see if anything makes yours better or worse.
 
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Beautiful dogs!!

Thanks! We love them. We have a pack of 6 dogs. 4 Siberian Huskies, 1 Rottie, and 1 Belgian Malinois mix. 2 of our dogs were found running the streets, Sasha the Siberian pictured above and Rascal my Belgian Malinois mix. My Rottie Fiona was found at a pound about to be euthanized for being heartworm positive and have torn CCL ligaments in her right knee and arthritis in her left hip. Fiona is only 2 years old. Dawn was purchased as a gift for my husband, but since he was overseas on deployment she is registered under my name. We were going to show her, but she grew a half inch too tall, so now the plan is to show Phantom and breed him to Dawn and show their pups. Cheyenne, is another Siberian, I found her at a backyard breeder/puppy mill. He had 16 adult Sibes and 4 pups and they were all in terrible condition. I purchased Cheyenne, called animal control and tried to let them see Cheyenne. But they said that they would investigate and did not need to see the condition of the pup I purchased. I hope they stopped that man and found homes for all those babies. Cheyenne herself will never be friendly with strange people or dogs, she is terrified of them. Poor Cheyenne was scared of grass, and human touch, and she had never known what it was to be dry, she was 11 weeks old when I brought her home. So of my 6 dogs, 4 come from bad pasts, I am a sucker for animals in need. Anyway, here is my pack doing their thing and being silly.
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Daddies first Christmas home meeting his girl Dawn.
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Madison is doing better. I'm not sure on Maverick. We only got 1 egg today from 7 girls. I'm sure it will take a couple of days to notice anything with them. If things don't perk up with them, I will look into using something else.

The change with Madison is enough to make me feel like we are on the right track. Now prevention after treatment is my next concern. Plus, I'm not sure when to retreat and if the girls start laying good again, treating them a second time and throwing out another 2 weeks worth of eggs will be disappointing. I know their health is what's important and taking care of it all at once is ideal but throwing out eggs seems so counterproductive.

Usually the follow up treatments are around 2-3 week intervals. I understand about the throwing out the eggs. Thing is, there isn't a lot of information out there on how long any residue can be found in the eggs because most chicken medicine is based on commercial production information and they don't give stuff to chickens, they just kill them. It's really up to individual people as to how long they want to wait before eating eggs again. Most people I know that do routine deworming don't throw out their eggs if the eggs are for their own use and are not going to be sold or given away to other people.
 
lol's it must be nice to be able to go home from work before lunch
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i think I may have misspoke when I said ideal had a 10 minimum on bbw turkeys you may be able to get the 5 you want. It the other turkeys they have the minimum. I think you just have to spend $25 on birds!! I have 2 that I am planing on processing in 2 or 3 weeks I got them in April. Thought it would take longer for them to get ready but they are about 25lbs now. So they will be going to freezer camp soon.
That sounds promising!
Aww..almost turkey time!

Look at how handsome my boy Phantom is growing up to be!

Phantom and Sasha together, don't they make a pretty pair?


Phantom by himself
He's very handsome! :)
 
Thanks! We love them. We have a pack of 6 dogs. 4 Siberian Huskies, 1 Rottie, and 1 Belgian Malinois mix. 2 of our dogs were found running the streets, Sasha the Siberian pictured above and Rascal my Belgian Malinois mix. My Rottie Fiona was found at a pound about to be euthanized for being heartworm positive and have torn CCL ligaments in her right knee and arthritis in her left hip. Fiona is only 2 years old. Dawn was purchased as a gift for my husband, but since he was overseas on deployment she is registered under my name. We were going to show her, but she grew a half inch too tall, so now the plan is to show Phantom and breed him to Dawn and show their pups. Cheyenne, is another Siberian, I found her at a backyard breeder/puppy mill. He had 16 adult Sibes and 4 pups and they were all in terrible condition. I purchased Cheyenne, called animal control and tried to let them see Cheyenne. But they said that they would investigate and did not need to see the condition of the pup I purchased. I hope they stopped that man and found homes for all those babies. Cheyenne herself will never be friendly with strange people or dogs, she is terrified of them. Poor Cheyenne was scared of grass, and human touch, and she had never known what it was to be dry, she was 11 weeks old when I brought her home. So of my 6 dogs, 4 come from bad pasts, I am a sucker for animals in need. Anyway, here is my pack doing their thing and being silly.
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Cheyenne using Fiona as a pillow


Love the dog pics, especially with the cats. People often can't believe that our cats and dogs lay all over each other as buddies. Nice to see other people with cats and dogs that are friends.
 
IBS is un-curable, but can be managed. I have it, and I am lactose intolerant on top of that. But I manage mine through diet, and some meds. My IBS is not as severe as others, but for me, I have found that a meat heavy diet makes it worse, so I eat small portions of meat (chicken and beef, no pork) and lots of fruits and veggies. I still have random bouts with IBS, but when I eat a lot of meat or dairy I know I will have trouble later.
Maybe you can try diet changes and see if anything makes yours better or worse.

yeah thats what I was meaning. I have more of ibs c then d but I have both.
 
Love the dog pics, especially with the cats.  People often can't believe that our cats and dogs lay all over each other as buddies.  Nice to see other people with cats and dogs that are friends.


Of 6 dogs and 4 inside cats, only Fiona and Dawn (dogs) and Kiari and Kagura (cats) love snuggling together. What makes it even cuter is that Kagura will only snuggle with Dawn, Kiari will play with Dawn but only snuggle with Fiona. (Kagura gets jealous if Dawn plays with any other cat, and Dawn will defend her cat from the other dogs and gets upset when the cats wrestle with her, talk about a bond of love between those 2) Our other cats Midnight and KiKi are not dog lovers, they tolerate the dogs. Our puppies Phantom and Cheyenne try to play with the cats but always get slapped by them and then disicplined by Rascal (Belgian Malinois mix), and me for causing a ruckus. If by some chance Kagura or Kiari are targeted for play/chase by the pups, their respective guardian (Dawn or Fiona) always gets on them along with Rascal and myself. Phantom is 6 months old and Cheyenne is 8 months old, it's just puppy mischief they are full of energy and want to play all the time. Already the pups mostly ignore the cats, now they only chase when the cats chase each other. You can see the pups begging the cats to let them play too, lol.

Most people you ask about Siberians say that their prey drive is too high to live with smaller dogs, cats or other small animals. This is simply not true, I hold Dawn up as an example of a cat loving Siberian, and Sasha (who is a chicken killer) totally ignores the cats in our home.
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Fiona grooming Kagura, Dawn got upset and Kagura was not amused, lol. Fiona just wants to mother everything smaller than her.
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Fiona, Kagura, and Midnight napping together.
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Dawn and Kiari playing, Kagura got jealous.
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