Théo and the chickens des Sauches

Thanks for explaining and the pictures of the run.

It's the end of the year. I'm grateful to everyone who read and comment on this thread. I hope you'll stick around in 2025 !
It was a joy to read your thread. So I definitely will come back in 2025.

Hope you have a good start next year and good luck with building a safe home for your chickens.
 
I hope you, and your husband, are also adapting to the house without Honey
Thank you for thinking of us. My husband cried for two days straight after Honey's death (and I was away in UAE). We are all good now thankfully.

We only have 5 chickens now and they all seem to be happy and healthy today. I love them a lot and chickens are so adorable and fun!

I will certainly stick around in 2025. May you and your partner a happy and fruitful 2025!
 
My turn to thank everyone who had a kind thought for little Piou-piou. It's not pleasant either to write or to read about one of our chicken's death when it's difficult to cope with, and your support means a lot.

@lightm she certainly had her share of miracles, especially when we locked her up with the fox in the shed.
But this time it was the other way round - bad luck. If it had happened the day before, Merle had called loudly to be let out of the coop to lay very early, and I would have already been there at the time the marten came. And while we usually open our shutters at breakfast to hear better any noise from the coop that's just under our kitchen, we had left them closed that morning due to the wind.

It seems the chickens have come to term with it now, and things are going back to normal, except no one wants to sleep on the roost where Piou-piou had been sleeping with Théo and Merle for many months.
I hope you, and your husband, are also adapting to the house without Honey :hugs


Saturday morning, coming back from running I came upon my neighbour Amelia. The marten has killed one of her hens too, on the 26, 4 days after Piou-piou. They are setting a trap for it today. We are both hoping one of us catches it.

I'll try to answer all your points, thank you for taking the time to think this through.
We are almost sure it's a marten because I live next to a wildlife reserve that updates an inventory of species on the territory through their camera observations. There is a known marten presence, but no weasel, or any other mustelidae. What we saw was dark brown tabby and had a white collar.
Wikipedia says beech marten and stone marten can be used for the same animal, Martes foina (which isn't listed in the comparative you sent) but I'm not able to say if that's right : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beech_marten
I may not have been clear that we are not building a new run, but securing the one we have, which is about 15m2. When that's done, we will secure the wood shed. We need about 50x1 meters of hard cloth mesh. The brands that can be shipped here in a matter of days are all chinese ; i've ordered one of those, with a lower gauge than what we previously had. (I have had bad experiences with chinese mesh in the past, but maybe that was bad luck). French mesh producers don't do that kind of mesh, or in very small pieces. Some sites do ship brands from the NL or Germany, but with the holidays the delay is two to three weeks and we want to start now.
Yes, we might be filling with concrete on top of a mesh apron both on the floor ( there is just one portion, above the terrace wall, where the mesh is not already covered in concrete), and for the roof, underneath the rafter that's holding the polycarbonate sheets. And no, we can't dig or only superficially, but all our poles are already set in concrete.


Théo and Merle are still spending most of the day together but when Merle goes back in the chicken yard, Théo is alone outside. This will likely become a problem. For now, things are getting a little more quiet, with some human intervention at roost time.

It's the end of the year. I'm grateful to everyone who read and comment on this thread. I hope you'll stick around in 2025 !

A few pictures yesterday and today : the run needs securing, and the chickens.
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I'm so sad to read that you've had this attack through an invasion that should never have happened 😪. :hugs:hugs:hugs:hugs
 
Tomorrow will mark one week of our little heart getting killed and we're both feeling blue tonight, looking at photos, sharing memories, and wishing things were different.

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Our perception has shifted dramatically regarding safety and that has become our first worry. I'm now certain what we saw was a beech / stone marten. It was apparently a small one for that specie, the size of a big dormouse. It went through a hole that was four cm wide, that's 1.5 inch. So we're afraid none of our chicken places are 100% safe and the woodshed is definitely not. We think we have managed to secure the coop, unless there is an underground tunnel to the adjacent wine cave that we can't see.

So for now, our best chance to keep everyone alive is to have them in the coop.

I also feel they need time to adjust. There has been a very slight progress at roosting, and I don't need to take Théo out of the coop anymore for Gaston to come in to roost. I want to take the time to see how things turn out, how the social.dynamics shift, to see if we should make changes. They are still reacting to the stress of the attack, and so are we.

We are going to begin securing the run as best as we can tomorrow, and it's not simple as it's leaning on one side against the house's old crooked wall and on the other on a terrace dry stone wall below. It will take time to be sure we leave no gap. It's also difficult to know what to use. There is no real equivalent of hardware cloth in France. What we have that I've bought here and that we had initially used to double the lower part of the chain link mesh is very flimsy, and I'm quite sure it could be shred in time by the marten's sharp teeth. It won't work to make a solid enough apron. I might use the mesh we buy for our bee hives, we've used it to protect our potatoes and ham pantry from the rats and it seems to hold itself in time, but it is sold in small size only. Or get something specific like this which is way more expensive but seems more sturdy.

I've also bought a hunting camera and a trap that should be delivered in the next days. I am not angry against the marten, but my partner is beating himself up for not having had fast enough reflexes to kill it. If we succeed in trapping it we will kill it.

I'm not up to sharing a post on Piou-piou's short life yet. And I don't have the spirit to talk about the chickens because while I'm not thinking all the time about it, when I'm with them it feels like her absence is overwhelming .
Still I want to share something curious : I think Chipie possibly tried to crow for the first time, this morning. Isn't it strange for a hen that is supposedly around seven or eight ? Do you think that's what she was trying to do ?
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We have been making slow progress on the run, but my partner is working three days in a row so we won't be doing anything now before monday. We're sticking in the hardware mesh between the poles and gutter, and the existing chain link mesh, so it's taking a long time, untying every thing and tying it again. We really need to be two, one inside and one outside. I want to finish as soon as possible because we don't dare leave the chickens during the day now, and I want to take Gaston to the vet to show his toe.
I received the hunting camera a few days ago but only got to set it tonight. We saw two marten's faeces this week, but it's difficult to say how old they were.

Merle and Léa are both back to laying. Annette and Mélisse have began to check out nests, and Gaston has started mating Mélisse even though she is obviously still moulting, so I think it shouldn't be too long before they lay. Laure's comb is getting very red and this morning she was on a nest, so maybe her implant is beginning wearing off. Two hens haven't moulted at all, Lulu and Nieva. Their feathers look awful, so I'm hoping they will still moult at least a bit.

We had two weeks of mostly beautiful weather for the holidays except for one or two days. Not too cold, and wonderful blue sky and sunshine. However, it hasn't rained or snowed at all in december, and we only had twice 4 ml in november, so the ground is turning to dry dust again, after not even a year getting enough rain.
The vultures are circling above us almost every day now, 10 to 20 of them. All the neighbours are wondering what's going on. The hunters say they don't have to do anything with it. They scare the chickens because they come really close, and once or twice a bunch of them even landed in the garden.

I've been gathering all the photos I have of Piou-piou, and reading the old posts I wrote here about her. It's making me very grateful I took the time to write those details down, I had forgotten much of it, and it's precious for me now to read her story over again. It makes it worth it trying to stick to writing some kind of journal about the chickens.

The one lesson I will try to keep from the marten's attack is to do regular safety inspections. Our coop was 100% secure in the beginning. If we had checked regularly, we would certainly have seen it wasn't anymore.

It's time for the 2024 egg count, with the excel sheet I used thanks to Molpet and Perris. It's been very handy and I will keep the same model for 2025. I hope you can see the numbers zooming in.
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The chickens do pretty good during the day, but roosting is still horrible. I hope it won't be as bad once they've all finished molting. Today Théo flied from his roost straight on to Chipie's back, who was on another roost. It seemed to me it was an attack meant to hurt, and not an attempt at mating, especially since I've never seen roosters try to mate a hen on a roost.

Chicken pictures from yesterday and today.

The picture doesn't really show but Laure's comb is bright red again.
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Annette's on the other hand is more greyish-purple than ever.
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Merle is getting pretty glossy - nearly done moulting.
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Poor Mélisse on the other hand ...
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Lilly has grown some feathers back, but she is still bare spots in some places and lots of broken feathers.
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The morning after I posted the video of her, Chipie definitely crowed. But since then I haven't heard her do it again. She makes a lot of strange screams and sounds, and I'm wondering if she isn't going a bit senile ! :old
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Léa is very jealous of Lulu, who has become one of Gaston's favourite. Léa intends to be first lady.
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Where is your tail, Mélisse ?
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It's time for the 2024 egg count
that's a very impressive count; even the frequently broody Merle delivered a respectable amount, a fair return for all your care and resources (those she was offered and those she stole :lol:) it seems to me.

Did you sell some of the surplus? My sales cover all my chicken outgoings, though I don't price in my time of course; I love spending time with the flock!
 

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