The 7th Annual BYC Easter Hatch-A-Long!

[OneMountainAcres]

Ok, had to look up silver laced Orpintons. They look like silver laced Wyondotte to me.. I know, there will be some that go..NOT! But, then I saw this one!

Love this color!

Maybe it's just my screen but that looks like a mint, chocolate! Lol

 

[Eps32]

Thanks. I lost blue and gold partridge brahmas, a cukoo orpington, a chocolate Orpington, black copper marans and some blue cochins. I'm heartbroken, they were the sweetest birds.

I'm also very sorry for your loss. Neighbors that don't contain there animals are a real pain. My neighbor hat a huge pit bull and doberman pinscher. And they break lose all the time. I'm always telling my girlfriend get my shotgun. Iv always had success with just shooting it in the ground. But I don't trust that one day they will go after my free Rangers. I now have a 4 month old German Shepard already 48 pounds. That patrols the yard and is very protective of her chicken buddy's. They leave there dogs chained up all day and night. And I just think when they get loose there looking for trouble to get into. So I prey I don't have problems with them one day. The sad part is I live on 8 acres and they still get in my yard from time to time.

 

[Sristi]

Well, my ducks finally got their act together with the warmer weather and laid 4 eggs yesterday morning. I let them sit in the house for a bit to warm up and popped them in the incubator along with the dozen from Saturday. I think a twelve hours' time difference should be fine. So up my count to 16 duck eggs!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote:

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[COLOR=FF0000]Shipped Eggs = Change Of Plans![/COLOR]
Shipped eggs have a MUCH lower hatch rate, even with experienced hatchers!​

BELOW ROLLING AIR CELL OF A SHIPPED EGG
Rolls like a Carpenters Level

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[COLOR=000000]SHIPPED EGGS & Malpositions![/COLOR]
BELOW ARE "SADDLE" SHAPED AIR CELLS


[COLOR=000000]SADDLE SHAPED AIR CELLS are very COMMON with shipped eggs![/COLOR]

[COLOR=000000]Saddle shaped is when[/COLOR]​

[COLOR=000000][COLOR=FF0000]one or both sides have a large "dip" in the air cell.[/COLOR][/COLOR]​

[COLOR=333333]A lot of times with saddle shaped cells the chick doesn’t position correct for hatching and their feet can easily get stuck behind their head and “smoosh” the chick so they can’t move, it can also force the yolk sack and everything more north in the shell.... Keep a close eye on these eggs and its VERY important to pencil mark Air cells! Issues[/COLOR] Step by Step Guide to ASSISTED Hatching​

saddles below

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[COLOR=000000]Jiggly eggs are when the air cell[/COLOR]​

[COLOR=000000]has a small amount of movement at the top![/COLOR]​

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[COLOR=000000]UNDERSTANDING what goes WRONG with SHIPPED EGGS[/COLOR]
[COLOR=696969]The yolk of an egg is held in place on each end by what is called Chalaza. These are delicate cords that keep the yolk centered in the egg. When you crack open an egg, you notice a white stringy thing on the yolk, this is the Chalaza. When eggs are shipped they encounter postal handlers that toss the packages, sorting machinery, bumpy vehicle rides, temperature changes and possibly X-ray Machines! So by the time the eggs get to you they are pretty much scrambled inside. So if you are going to buy eggs and have them shipped to you, be aware that the viability drops TREMENDOUSLY. There are rare instances when they ALL arrive safely but it is always a gamble.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=696969]See Egg anatomy here[/COLOR] [COLOR=0000FF]http://www.geauga4h.org/poultry/egg_parts.htm[/COLOR]​

[COLOR=FF0000]~ CONCLUSION ~[/COLOR]
[COLOR=FF0000]Shipped Eggs How & When to Set![/COLOR]
[COLOR=000000]"Settle" & Setting of eggs[/COLOR]
[COLOR=000000]Shipped eggs need to be left to warm to room temperature
& need to settle B4 adding to the incubator!
This "settle" time will vary depending on the age of the eggs, DO NOT TURN THEM!!
if the air cells are large they are already getting old! Most shipped eggs are getting old![/COLOR]
[COLOR=000000]Settle 6 hours and then set (begin incubation) if they are getting old and have large air cells.[/COLOR] But continue to read below for Rolling, Ruptured, Jiggly Air cell info!
[COLOR=000000]If Eggs are FRESH you can settle for 12-24 hours.[/COLOR]
REMINDER~ Never Set COLD eggs in the incubator.
[COLOR=000000]EGGS WILL NEED DIFFERENT TREATMENTS Should YOU have BAD AIR CELLS......[/COLOR]
If an egg has a NORMAL INTACT AIR CELL:
Normal air cell eggs, settle 12-24 hrs if FRESH, IF OLD 6 hours and
then begin to incubate these upright and you may begin turning, you may lay horizontal or upright for hatching. Most people like to hatch upright for shipped eggs.
PLEASE PLEASE READ THE TURNING SECTION of this article FIRST!
If you can turn more than 3x a day PLEASE PLEASE turn them!! 3 is minimum amount!​

[COLOR=000000]For ROLLING AIR CELLS:[/COLOR]
(cells no longer at fat end of the egg but like a bubble level on the long side, see above video)
Follow SETTLING EGGS ABOVE DO NOT TURN
[COLOR=000000]Set in incubator Upright/AIR CELL UP/FAT END UP and
do not turn for 3 days once set in the bator AT LEAST!
CANDLE ONLY FROM ABOVE LEAVE THEM IN THE BATOR DURING CANDLE[/COLOR]
If after 3 days and you have embryo growth and the air cell is still completely loose, do not turn another 24 hours. ​

[COLOR=000000]For detached, Jiggly or disrupted air cells:[/COLOR]
[COLOR=000000](see above for descriptions and images)[/COLOR]
If air cells are Saddle shaped, Detached/Loose, or Jiggly follow above settle times
and set in the incubator and don't turn for at least 36/48 HOURS
After that time, turn on the turner or begin with the gentle turning side to side
or you can turn by hand in the carton by simply tilting side to side, see image below.
Below image are Eggs in A Carton with Bottoms cut out for Ventilation
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Below image of Turning damaged air cell Shipped Eggs, just lean to opposite side.
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TREATMENT AT LOCKDOWN.......
Shipped eggs that have had loose air cells or saddle air cells, should be hatched upright but tilted just enough so that the lowest dip is somewhat upright, so if they have fluid in the air cell it may prevent drowning).​

[COLOR=FF0000]MARKING AIR CELLS DAY 18, DRAW DOWN, INTERNAL PIP, EXTERNAL PIP, and ZIPPING [/COLOR]post #35770
[COLOR=FF0000]Pips and ZIPS ARE NOT THE SAME PATIENCE is a MUST![/COLOR]


LOCKDOWN, DAY 18, CANDLES, PIPS, ZIPS
[COLOR=008080]DAY 18 CANDLE IMAGES/VIDEOS: [/COLOR] post #41176
[COLOR=008080]FIVE VIDEOS show Draw Down and Internals[/COLOR] post #44701
[COLOR=008080]DAY 18 DIS CANDLES[/COLOR] post #43401
[COLOR=FF0000]DONT PICK THE PIPS![/COLOR] post #24611
[COLOR=FF0000]TIMELINE of a silky HATCHING! NOTE HOW LONG IT TOOK FROM INTERNAL TO ZIPPING[/COLOR] post #33770
[COLOR=FF0000]TIMELINE OF A POLISH HATCHING QUICK HATCHOUT![/COLOR] post #46572
VIDEO of zip and hatch AT :[COLOR=0000FF]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyO3YwrsJPg [/COLOR]
[COLOR=008080]DO my Air cells look ok Day 18?[/COLOR] post #31971
[COLOR=008080]DAY 18 HOW DO I LOCKDOWN, WHAT HUMIDITY, do I hatch horizontal OR Upright? [/COLOR] post #32948
[COLOR=008080]LOWERING TEMPS lockdown IS NOT NECESSARY/AIDs THE HATCHING PROCESS[/COLOR] post #2898
[COLOR=008080]Hatching Behavior & How the chick Comes out of the Shell[/COLOR] post #34865
[COLOR=008080]YES a chick can chirp when its not pipped internally![/COLOR] post #20506

First and foremost, @Sally Sunshine
for her excellent shipped egg information,
such that I'm getting live birds hatching from this mess:
[COLOR=008080]Kristins horribly shipped eggs and hatch[/COLOR] post #57321

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[COLOR=000080]CRACKED EXPENSIVE IMPORTANT EGGS[/COLOR]
[COLOR=000080] If you do receive a cracked egg and it’s an expensive egg you can try to hatch it, but beware of bacterial explosion and good possibility of ruining other eggs. It is possible to hatch a cracked egg by sealing the crack with candle wax/crayon wax or finger nail polish. Try to place the egg in a cup or protected place well away from other eggs.[/COLOR] [COLOR=000080]If viable to hatch, keep a close eye on where the pip mark will be in case the chick cant get through a fixed area.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=FF0000]REMINDER THAT YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO REIMBURSEMENT
OF DAMAGED SHIPPED EGGS[/COLOR]
SEE LINKS FOR INFO! https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/the-truth-about-insuring-hatching-eggs
http://www.jordan-farm.com/blog/​

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Sally, I ordered eggs from eBay, and I told the seller exactally how you said to ship them and they said that they would. But, my incubator is the Brinsea Mini Advanced Incubator with the automatic egg turner. With that incubator, I can only incubate them horizontally. Is that okay? Because I saw that you said to only incubate them when they are sitting up.​

you could cut out egg cups from a carton and dont turn the turner on for the first day or so, it all depends on air cells. You need to have them upright if air cells are screwy.

Anyone else have this mini brinsea, suggestions?

@Sally Sunshine I have quite a few breeds I will be hatching. I'll list them all by Friday. My neighbors dogs killed moh ost of my birds today

Its been a tough day for me. All the babies I've been hatching over the last 3 to 4 months are gone. They are going to pay for replacement eggs but they don't quite understand everything I went through to attain those babies. I have to start over now. I will run 2 incubators for the EHAL.

oh NO!!!! I am so sorry!!!

not again! OMGGGGGGGGGG
I am so sad!! brahma!! and all the sweet breeds you have!! oh no!!! what did the neighbors say? they owe you for them you know that!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Morning All!

 

[Sahwithchicks]

I am so sorry to hear that @hawk12
I had the same thing happen to me at the end of last summer. I had my gqf brooder on the floor in my shed, and left the door open because it was hot out. The dog came, knocked the top off, and just crushed the birds. Didn't eat any, was just "playing". He killed 5 peachicks, 8 Bourbon red turkeys (which was an entire new bloodline) and some other chicks. I found out whose dog it was, and confronted them about it. Turned out to be the pearcher two houses down. They offered to pay for the chicks and apoligised, but never did give me any money.

 

[caeti21]

@Sally Sunshine I have quite a few breeds I will be hatching. I'll list them all by Friday. My neighbors dogs killed most of my birds today

Its been a tough day for me. All the babies I've been hatching over the last 3 to 4 months are gone. They are going to pay for replacement eggs but they don't quite understand everything I went through to attain those babies. I have to start over now. I will run 2 incubators for the EHAL.

Awe im very sorry for your loss

 

[TJordan]

That looks like an Easter egger to me. I think I see pea comb, beard and darker legs.

She's supposed to be a Wyndottee. That's what I paid for. If not that's ok. I got an EE as well. I'll deal

I've also got a Cuckoo Maran as well. Had to add some color.

 

[cree57i]

@Sally Sunshine I have quite a few breeds I will be hatching. I'll list them all by Friday. My neighbors dogs killed most of my birds today

Its been a tough day for me. All the babies I've been hatching over the last 3 to 4 months are gone. They are going to pay for replacement eggs but they don't quite understand everything I went through to attain those babies. I have to start over now. I will run 2 incubators for the EHAL.

I'm so sorry.

I don't think someone who hasn't raised them, worried over them, been out in the cold, rain and heat with them can begin to understand. It's not something money fixes. Only time and you still think about the ones that have passed.

 

[JoyfulPromise]

Insomnia.....
Does anyone have this? Review? Or point me in another direction? I'm sick of big brooder lights.

This looks just like the Premier1 Brooder plates, except for the color! We have several of those and LOVE them!

They work great for laying chicks, and for meat chicks too. I highly recommend them!! So much more natural for the chicks than having a light on 24/7!

Here is the link to the Premier Heating Plates - https://www.premier1supplies.com/detail.php?prod_id=135875&cat_id=226