The American Paint Silkie

[jerschex]

Phase I of my quest to create paint showgirls.
Mated a white show girl male to several of my paint silkie hens,
first 5 eggs incubated resulted in 5 chicks hatch
one died after hatch (a white), remaining 4 are
1 white, 1 black and 2 partridge (the partridge are the only two with naked necks
below are a few photos of the chicks just out of the incubator

the white has a patch of brown over the eye

 

[jerschex]

I emailed the photos to Sigs and below is her reply:

Jerry,
Don't bother about partridge/black golds, they carry one dose recessive white, breed back or amongst eachother and 25% should be white.
There is not much paint about them, lol. Paint shows immediately.
You know Deb did: partridge cockerel x paint show girl: 4 partridge and 2 paint chicks.
This is weird. Paint can appearantly knock-out partridge in one dose. Illogical, you would expect a mix.

The rusty colour on the head of the white is autosomal red. Can be its lost in later plumage, or it stays.
What colour has the sg?
Both naked neck gene and paint are NOT sex linked so you can mix male/female whatever you like.
When the sg has a bow tie (dot on the neck) he is half naked neck, therefore you get also normal feathered chicks.
Pure naked neck doesn't work because those have 30% less overall feathers compared to the impure ones.
A bold neck sg is only usefull to create all naked necks x normal featherd, they all will have a bow tie.

I thought Bren also is doing this cross, she uses white sg over paint.
The paint isn't perhaps recessive white therefore you get the colour of chicks of the recessive white or what's beneath paint.
Beneath Europaint is black with gold and mahogany most of the time.
Here is blue as well now, some were mistaken in the black they used, it was a very dark blue.
That's how splash paint happens.

Interesting experiment, thank you for the photos!
sigs

 

[ultra1classic]

had some f4's from my white pen throwing chicks with maybe 5 single strands of black scattered about their bodies...threw one of my good black hens in the pen and here are a few of the chicks i have hatched out. they start out a smutty yellowish ...

 

[jerschex]

They look more splash than paint to me.

The chicks above are are from a white show girl male over these 3 hens

 

[ultra1classic]

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the new fuzz coming in is snow white...they seem to going from smutty yellow, to greyish with more pronounced black then to white with black..only pigment breaks I can find are last 3rd of toes and the nail are white ..my whites are f4 hens f5 roos all white to white breeding so getting chicks from them that had the scattered single black strands had me scrathing my head

 

[geosheets]

For any of you looking to get into paints I have a young unsexed trio listed http://www.bidbird.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=989050620

 

[featherbaby]

Hey, check out thread: "Silkies of a different color" post #195 by Freckle Face Farms!!!! I don't know if they are considered Paints or not, but they are beautiful and different. YEA Dawn!

 

[Teresaann24]

what do you all think of this...Is this really a paint offspring or a white with some smut because I have hatched many like this and this does not look like a paint to me.

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[peepswiththepoof]

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I saw that, too. I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact they are breeding paint to white and not paint to black or paint to paint. I'm not an expert by any means so like I said, just a guess!

 

[Teresaann24]

do you all think this chick was a paint chick? I got it from a white on black breeding the hen was blk and roo was white. This was the only pic I got it died the next morning somehow during the night it got wrapped in momma's butt fluff very sad sight to see.