The American Paint Silkie

[Faerytalefarm]

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[Bat Cave Silkies]

Actually, Paints do breed true......but--in my experience---they also produce dominant white and black. The reason it is recommended to breed Paint to black or white is to improve upon the "type".

 

[fowlrus]

I don't mean to take any thing away from this wonderful thread of paint silkie, I just want to add my flock of paint geese - made in American. They are the creation of Happypeeps Farm.
I am wonder about the offspings of this spotty beauties, they should be laying in spring, few feedback I got was that they wouldn't breed true. I understand the genes might work diffirent in waterfowl, can't wait to find out.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Breeding true means that if the same two varieties are bred together, 100% of offspring should be of the same variety. Blue does not breed true; neither does (chocolate) dun; both splash and khaki do breed true. Blue & chocolate (dun) DO breed predictably, just not "true." I do not think we know enough about paint to state whether it will breed true or not. Breeding true assumes that each parent is pure (homozygous) for the genes needed for the variety.

 

[fowlrus]

Thanks Sonoran, so if I have both parants being paint, it should breed true. My geese show some blue cross and some show dun, out come could be interesting I guess.

 

[josh44]

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Wow very nice

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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As I stated at the beginning, we really don't know enough to say. And if the paint is not from a paint X paint breeding, it likely is not pure for whatever gene or combination of genes is necessary.

 

[FrenchToast]

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So are you saying that any black or white chicks you get out of breeding two paints together will be dominant white or black?
What about chicks that are bred from a paint roo over black or white hens? Will any black or white offspring also be dominant white or black??

Just wondering then if that let you know that you have dominant whites and blacks then for future breedings.

Thanks

 

[Squishypuff]

I've been lurking, but here are my paint babies- I love them! They were my birthday present, good hubby! Some are showgirls, which just makes me melt into a puddle of Silkie love.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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So are you saying that any black or white chicks you get out of breeding two paints together will be dominant white or black?
What about chicks that are bred from a paint roo over black or white hens? Will any black or white offspring also be dominant white or black??

Just wondering then if that let you know that you have dominant whites and blacks then for future breedings.

Thanks

Since we do not know the genetic makeup of paints, it is not really possible to be sure. It may be dominant white without spots; or if recessive white is in the background of both parents, it could be that. There really is no "dominant black." Black can be built upon just about any base, but the darkest and best are usually E or E^R, which are the two most dominant of the e-alleles. However, neither alone will make an entirely black bird; they need additional melanizers for that.