The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

[3KillerBs]

If people say whiting true blues are a breed but they dont breed true are they really a breed or a mix?

They are a breed, at least in theory, but they don't have true-breeding color varieties.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

They are a breed, at least in theory, but they don't have true-breeding color varieties.

Just like my araucanas are a breed, but their colors I have won't breed true

 

[pipdzipdnreadytogo]

I think more accurately they would fall under the purposefully-bred hybrid category, rather like ISA browns and the various other sexlink hybrids available from hatcheries. 'Breed' implies a certain amount of uniformity in the birds that the Whiting hybrids and other Easter-egger mixes from hatcheries just don't have.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

I think more accurately they would fall under the purposefully-bred hybrid category, rather like ISA browns and the various other sexlink hybrids available from hatcheries. 'Breed' implies a certain amount of uniformity in the birds that the Whiting hybrids and other Easter-egger mixes from hatcheries just don't have.

They are not a hybrid though in what they're bred for. They lay blue eggs and will only pass blue genes and are not sexlinked. Easter eggers have no guarantee of egg colors passed down, blue hybrids often are bred from a blue and a leghorn for lighter eggs (so they may pass white shell genes, not blue), and other hybrids are bred to be autosexing

 

[nicalandia]

Just like my araucanas are a breed, but their colors I have won't breed true

How come your Araucanas don't breed True? Are you breeding two different color strain?

 

[pipdzipdnreadytogo]

They are not a hybrid though in what they're bred for. They lay blue eggs and will only pass blue genes and are not sexlinked. Easter eggers have no guarantee of egg colors passed down, blue hybrids often are bred from a blue and a leghorn for lighter eggs (so they may pass white shell genes, not blue), and other hybrids are bred to be autosexing

But Whiting True Blues come in a variety of feather colors, skin colors, comb types, and can be bearded or not bearded. Just look at the pictures on McMurray's website of them, no two are alike. The only thing they guarantee is egg color, which seems to be the only thing they were bred to consistently produce. That's simply not enough for them to qualify as a breed by any standard.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

How come your Araucanas don't breed True? Are you breeding two different color strain?

They came from a pen with multiple colors. the breeders didn't separate them out

 

[nicalandia]

They came from a pen with multiple colors. the breeders didn't separate them out

Are you going to separate them?

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Are you going to separate them?

No. Why would I?

 

[nicalandia]

No. Why would I?

To keep Order and Breed to Standard?