The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

[3KillerBs]

Very interesting! The original picture shows very black on her face but the latter ones don't. Some kind of weird lighting?

In the last photos she's out in the sun and the first photo, where she's next to her OE hatchmate, was taken several weeks ago. Like most of our Easter hatch girls, she's getting redder by the day as she approaches her first egg.

 

[NatJ]

What would Red JungleFowl X Brassy Back OEGBs look like?

Would they be more Red, & black, or all black with leakage?

When I look up Brassy Back, they appear to be a melanized wild type.

So crossing a melanized wild type (Brassy Back) to a normal wild type (Red Junglefowl), I would expect offspring to be wildtype with or without some amount of extra melanizers.

So probably red & black, but perhaps more black than the basic Red Junglefowl have.

 

[MysteryChicken]

When I look up Brassy Back, they appear to be a melanized wild type.

So crossing a melanized wild type (Brassy Back) to a normal wild type (Red Junglefowl), I would expect offspring to be wildtype with or without some amount of extra melanizers.

So probably red & black, but perhaps more black than the basic Red Junglefowl have.

I know what Brassy Back is. Was just curious about what the outcome would be.

I'll find out when I do this crossing sometime in the future. I was thinking the Extended black would cause more black.

It may vary in results, like you suggested the offspring may be.

 

[NatJ]

I know what Brassy Back is. Was just curious about what the outcome would be.

I didn't know, so I looked them up.
I stated what I found, in case it was actually wrong, or in case the term meant different things in different breeds (like how "Spangled" means different things in Hamburg than in OEGB.)

I'll find out when I do this crossing sometime in the future. I was thinking the Extended black would cause more black.

Where do you find this Extended Black? That is NOT what I found when I tried to look them up.
What I found seemed pretty clear that they are on e+ with some genes that make them show more black than is normal for the wild-type pattern.

Edit: or did you say "extended black" to mean "more black than usual," rather than referring to the E gene at the e-locus?

 

[samanthaoverton]

So can I ask about egg color? Is that technically in the line of genetics? I read somewhere that egg color is split between the hen and roo and that the egg the off spring will lay will be between what each breed lays. If I have a roo whose breed lays brown eggs and a hen that lays white eggs, would the offsprings eggs be tan? A color in the middle?

 

[MysteryChicken]

I didn't know, so I looked them up.
I stated what I found, in case it was actually wrong, or in case the term meant different things in different breeds (like how "Spangled" means different things in Hamburg than in OEGB.)


Where do you find this Extended Black? That is NOT what I found when I tried to look them up.
What I found seemed pretty clear that they are on e+ with some genes that make them show more black than is normal for the wild-type pattern.

Edit: or did you say "extended black" to mean "more black than usual," rather than referring to the E gene at the e-locus?

More black then usual, for the melanizer. I think charcoal.

nicalandia said Brassy Backs were Extended Black X Wildtype. The F1s bred together produce the Brassy Backs.

 

[NatJ]

nicalandia said Brassy Backs were Extended Black X Wildtype. The F1s bred together produce the Brassy Backs.

I hadn't seen that. Trust nicalandia, not me

 

[3KillerBs]

@MysteryChicken @NatJ

Do either of you have any opinions on my pullet, Charcoal? https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/the-ask-anything-to-nicalandia-thread.1509343/post-26099013

 

[MysteryChicken]

@nicalandia

There has been some discussion on the Picture of the Week thread about my super-dark Blue Australorp pullet, Charcoal:

Some people aren't believing that I don't have any Silkie-cross, Ayam Cerami-cross, etc. birds and that she's just gypsy-faced.

So I managed to catch her today and get some bad, awkwardly-posed photos to more clearly show her features -- including the white soles on her feet -- to prove that she doesn't actually have black skin.

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In the sunlight it's clear to see that she's NOT black.

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Unlike her hatchmate, whom you ID'd as half California White in this post: https://www.backyardchickens.com/attachments/0809221017f-jpg.3235987/ who is clearly black:

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I may have another of these very dark blues in my youngest batch too, but I can't be sure for a while since it's only 8-9 weeks old:

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Any idea what's going on with her genetically? Just the natural variability in shades of blue or something specific?

Dark Blue with Gypsy face, or just dark faced from Extended Black.

 

[NatJ]

@MysteryChicken @NatJ

Do either of you have any opinions on my pullet, Charcoal? https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/the-ask-anything-to-nicalandia-thread.1509343/post-26099013

Sorry, I don't.