The "Ask Anything" to Nicalandia Thread

[RoostersAreAwesome]

Brown Novogen hen with Bielefelder Roo. What would I get? Would they be somewhat autosex? (I'm new to chickens & not versed in chicken breeding terminology.)

Assuming your novogen has white tail feathers: half of the offspring would be white with red leakage and the other half would be red with some black patterning. They would all be barred. I don’t believe they’d be autosexing.

 

[NatJ]

Brown Novogen hen with Bielefelder Roo. What would I get? Would they be somewhat autosex? (I'm new to chickens & not versed in chicken breeding terminology.)

No autosexing (color-sexable chicks, breeds true).
No sexlinks (color-sexable chicks, one-time cross).

The hen is brown with a white tail and a few other white feathers, right? I predict this:

Chicks should hatch out with a fair bit of red/brown coloring in their down, probably some darker than others, some with stripes of yellow/white and maybe black and some maybe without stripes.

When they grow their feathers:
All chicks should have white barring.
All chicks should show some amount of brown/red/gold.
Half of chicks will show some amount of black, especially in the tail and around the base of the neck but probably also in other parts of the body. The other half of the chicks will have that black turned into white, probably with a few black bits leaking through here and there.


Genes involved, for those who like to learn about such things:
Father homozygous barred, chicks heterozygous/hemizygous barred.
Father & mother pure for gold, so chicks are too.
Mother probably heterozygous for Dominant White, so half of chicks heterozygous and half don't have it.
Father e+/e+, mother likely E^Wh/E^Wh, so chicks probably E^Wh/e+
Mother Co/? so at least half of chicks should show Columbian restriction of black.

 

[nicalandia]

Brown Novogen hen with Bielefelder Roo. What would I get? Would they be somewhat autosex? (I'm new to chickens & not versed in chicken breeding terminology.)

You can enter this on the Calculator.

Sire:

e+/e+, co+/co+, s+/s+, B/B, i+/i+

Dame:

eWh/eWh, Co/Co, s+/-, b+/b+, I/I

Offspring:

Females:
e+/eWh, Co/co+, s+/-, B/-, I/i+

Males:
e+/eWh, Co/co+, s+/s+ , B/b+, I/,i+

Most birds will look Orange Columbian with faint barring, many white on tail and hackle, no Autosexing

 

[Happy Novogens]

Assuming your novogen has white tail feathers: half of the offspring would be white with red leakage and the other half would be red with some black patterning. They would all be barred. I don’t believe they’d be autosexing.

Thanks!

No autosexing (color-sexable chicks, breeds true).
No sexlinks (color-sexable chicks, one-time cross).

The hen is brown with a white tail and a few other white feathers, right? I predict this:

Chicks should hatch out with a fair bit of red/brown coloring in their down, probably some darker than others, some with stripes of yellow/white and maybe black and some maybe without stripes.

When they grow their feathers:
All chicks should have white barring.
All chicks should show some amount of brown/red/gold.
Half of chicks will show some amount of black, especially in the tail and around the base of the neck but probably also in other parts of the body. The other half of the chicks will have that black turned into white, probably with a few black bits leaking through here and there.


Genes involved, for those who like to learn about such things:
Father homozygous barred, chicks heterozygous/hemizygous barred.
Father & mother pure for gold, so chicks are too.
Mother probably heterozygous for Dominant White, so half of chicks heterozygous and half don't have it.
Father e+/e+, mother likely E^Wh/E^Wh, so chicks probably E^Wh/e+
Mother Co/? so at least half of chicks should show Columbian restriction of black.

Am attaching photo of her. Thank you for the reply. When you describe chicks, is that at hatch or once they're fully feathered? (Am very new to this .)

You can enter this on the Calculator.

Sire:

e+/e+, co+/co+, s+/s+, B/B, i+/i+

Dame:

eWh/eWh, Co/Co, s+/-, b+/b+, I/I

Offspring:

Females:
e+/eWh, Co/co+, s+/-, B/-, I/i+

Males:
e+/eWh, Co/co+, s+/s+ , B/b+, I/,i+

Most birds will look Orange Columbian with faint barring, many white on tail and hackle, no Autosexing

Thank you. Unfortunately the entries for the calculator are completely greek to me. Don't have a clue to what those letters mean.
Appreciate you writing it out though.

I can follow the last paragraph.

 

[NatJ]

Am attaching photo of her.

Yes, that is the color I was thinking of, that I used in my predictions.

When you describe chicks, is that at hatch or once they're fully feathered? (Am very new to this .)

A bit of both.
When I said, "chicks should hatch out with..." I was describing the color of the fuzzy down they have when they hatch.
When I said, "When they grow their feathers..." I was talking about the feather colors they will grow.

Thank you. Unfortunately the entries for the calculator are completely greek to me. Don't have a clue to what those letters mean.
Appreciate you writing it out though.

They are meant for the calculator here:
http://kippenjungle.nl/chickencalculator.html
Each gene has a name, and also an abbreviation. Of course it is easier to type the abbreviation, but the disadvantage is that it looks like nonsense to anyone who doesn't already know it.

The idea is that you go down the list of dropdown boxes, changing each one to match one of the sets of genes listed. For any box that wasn't given in the list, just leave it at the default setting (genes marked with +). Then the pictures of the chickens change to look a bit like your rooster and hen. You can click a button that says "calculate crossing" and it will tell what chicks to expect from crossing those two parents.

Some people find the calculator great fun to play with, and some people find it confusing and frustrating, so I would say to use it if it's fun and skip it if it's not

 

[MysteryChicken]

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[MysteryChicken]

Turns out, 007 is actually Khaki, also apparently split for Lavender. My remaining Laughing Chicken is also split for lavender apparently.

None of the eggs made it to hatch. I eggtopsied the remaining Laughing chicken egg, & the chick was lavender with Orangey/Dun stripes. More brown then orange. Hard to describe the coloration. Also was fibro, has 5 toes, & feathered legs.

I have 1 Laughing chicken egg in the incubator due to hatch the 29th, & have two more that I collected to place under a broody.

I also bred 007, to my CrackerFowl/Silkie mix hen(She's partridge in color)as an experiment in attempt to add dun into my other Silkies.

Do you think a partridge colored hen is a good choice, or should I go for a different color to breed him too instead?

 

[troyer]

Turns out, 007 is actually Khaki, also apparently split for Lavender. My remaining Laughing Chicken is also split for lavender apparently.

None of the eggs made it to hatch. I eggtopsied the remaining Laughing chicken egg, & the chick was lavender with Orangey/Dun stripes. More brown then orange. Hard to describe the coloration. Also was fibro, has 5 toes, & feathered legs.

I have 1 Laughing chicken egg in the incubator due to hatch the 29th, & have two more that I collected to place under a broody.

I also bred 007, to my CrackerFowl/Silkie mix hen(She's partridge in color)as an experiment in attempt to add dun into my other Silkies.

Do you think a partridge colored hen is a good choice, or should I go for a different color to breed him too instead?

I think partridge is a good choice, if you're breeding toward a good free range type bird, partridge will blend in good with most vegetation. Even if they don't end up as free rangers partridge is a good color.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I think partridge is a good choice, if you're breeding toward a good free range type bird, partridge will blend in good with most vegetation. Even if they don't end up as free rangers partridge is a good color.

Even a Dun/Chocolate colored partridge.
That's alot of brown, now that I mentioned it.

 

[troyer]

Even a Dun/Chocolate colored partridge.
That's alot of brown, now that I mentioned it.

In the Michigan landscape Dun or Chocolate blends in quite well. I have duns and partridge here and I love how well they blend with the grass, weeds and soil. I will probably eventually end up with dun partridge as I continue my breeding projects.