maranfarmer563
Songster
Chicken girl, I have Toni's cemani and her Fb Phoenix,beautiful birds
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...There is no better taproot for this constitution than large boned healthy Black Java hens. You'll never use a Black Java rooster so don't bother purchasing one.
The next gene stock that will prove absolutely pivotal for that Black Java lineage is the absolutely best quality miniature Sumatran rooster you can find. He should be tiny and black or better yet dark blue.
The Dark Blue Sumatran Bantam rooster is bred to the Black Java hen. F1 daughters are all keepers. That F1 lineage " New-Sunda" is what everyone ready to collaborate and cooperate should be ready to trade and move amongst one another. The very best rooster- and that's totally subjective- he may be dark skinned or just have the best conformation- or the best comb or better yet the best temperament- whatever your choice is- regardless of how close he is to "cemani" is held back. That F1 "New-Sunda" rooster is bred back to his mother. All other roosters go into the freezer. Do not breed from them.
F2 Daughters of this backcross are also keepers but only breed from the darkest hens. Don't worry about their conformation just their pigmentation.
Ok so you're wondering what the male lineage will be used other than the F1 "uncle brother" rooster - -back to him in a moment-
The F1 "New-Sunda" females are to produce another lineage of F2 from which roosters will be bred to those darkest F2 hens produced through backcrossing.
When everyone is clear on that convoluted mess I'll continue.
So- there's your foundation- the mother stock.
Following this too, thanks for asking the questions.I havebeen reading over the entire thread and have some questions on the beginning parts where you go over the genetics of developing Cemani morphs using Black Javas and Sumatras.you talk about using a blue Sumatra rather than a black one.how does the blue deletion gene work with the Cemani morph?
Additionally why use the TINY Sumatran rooster rather than a large fowl?