The chicken chick

[casportpony]

I think the major issue is that new chicken owners are the ones likely to get confused and turn to google. Which brings up in the first few links the chicken chick website. All my point was is that someone claiming to be an expert, and getting paid to do a chicken blog, shouldn't be so flimsy with the terms. People who have owned chickens for lengthly periods of time maybe won't get confused but it was that experience that got us to this point. I actually don't know anyone in the chicken community that refers to coccidiosis as cocci. We must run with different flocks (despite living so close together). In my line of work we refer to the infection as exactly what it is. I would get in major troubles if I wrote on a results sheet that a pet just had "cocci" if I was referring to coccidia. One's treated with antibiotics, the other with a coccidiostat. Could spell a lot of trouble for the patient. I'm still working on the article I'm going to post but it's coming. To me, it is very important to get technical on these kinds of things.

I couldn't agree with you more... Well said and I look forward to seeing your article. My biggest pet peeve is the dosing advice that I have seen posted or published on forums, wesites, blogs, etc., but that's a needs to be in a thread on it's own, lol.

-Kathy

 

[boskelli1571]

I couldn't agree with you more... Well said and I look forward to seeing your article. My biggest pet peeve is the dosing advice that I have seen posted or published on forums, wesites, blogs, etc., but that's a needs to be in a thread on it's own, lol.

-Kathy

Could not agree more! Look forward to reading the article in progress Kessy09

 

[ten chicks]

In The Chicken Chick article regarding coccidiosis,she does say coccidiosis,but then refers to it as cocci. I personally have found her information to be accurate and correct,she does not post anything until she has verified it with a vet. The vet she deals with on her blog and website is a Canadian Veterinarian(who is extremely knowledgeable and whom i have had correspondence with) he does reference "cocci spores" when explaining about coccidiosis,my vet does as well. I have spoken to 3 vets that do reference cocci,when talking about coccidiosis.

I always check my facts and never assume what i read on any site is correct,it is up to each individual to verify any treatment/information they receive.

 

[boskelli1571]

In The Chicken Chick article regarding coccidiosis,she does say coccidiosis,but then refers to it as cocci. I personally have found her information to be accurate and correct,she does not post anything until she has verified it with a vet. The vet she deals with on her blog and website is a Canadian Veterinarian(who is extremely knowledgeable and whom i have had correspondence with) he does reference "cocci spores" when explaining about coccidiosis,my vet does as well. I have spoken to 3 vets that do reference cocci,when talking about coccidiosis.

I always check my facts and never assume what i read on any site is correct,it is up to each individual to verify any treatment/information they receive.

Yes - absolutely you should always double/triple check info, most people would do so especially if livestock are involved (you would hope). However, there are people out there who take as gospel anything they read on the internet - I've met some!

So I think an article to clarify something that might be a misconception for some, is an excellent idea. Sue

 

[ten chicks]

Misconception? Cocci is only used as an abbreviation for coccidiosis,and is referenced by many veterinarians when talking about coccidiosis. The word "cocci" only describes the appearance/shape and nothing else. Cocci is not a bacteria in itself but rather the plural form of Coccus which is a broad term used to describe any spherical or spherical shaped bacterium. Not sure why there is so much confusion about the use of an abbreviation.

 

[Kessy09]

I've been in the veterinary field for over ten years and have in the last two years worked very closely with two different avian veterinarians. One that specializes in poultry (he just moved back to Toronto). I've never, ever heard any veterinarian, technician or support staff shorten coccidiosis to cocci. That would be a big mistake. If a stool sample came in (from any species of animal) and it was positive for bacteria, the results would be listed as either cocci, rods, spirochetes, etc. (It would never be listed as coccus because on that level there is never just one bacteria). If the sample showed coccidia it would be listed as such. The pet would then be appropriately diagnosed with either a bacterial infection (of some sort-but there wouldn't be a way to tell the exact bacteria without doing a culture) or with coccidiosis. One would be treated with a broad spectrum antibiotic, the other with Amprol or sulpha drugs etc. If there is no differentiation between the two, and they continue to be discussed as if they are the same thing, someone will go ahead and treat their bird that had "cocci" with Tylan or Baytril and wonder why it dies after 3 days. I would certainly hope that someone with a sick chicken would go to more trouble than just believing what they read on the internet however, some people don't. I didn't mean to start this thread to debate whether or not cocci is an appropriate abbreviation. There is no debate about it in my mind. All it was was to see if anyone knew if the chicken chick came on here or if there was a link to her fb page or some way I could reach her. I think it's extremely rude to be politely informed of a possible issue with her blog (twice) and not even getting a response.

 

[boskelli1571]

I think this is getting a little heated!!

Can we simply agree to disagree?? I have been in the medical field for over 40 years, so I understand that what you & I may know and understand is different for many lay people because they are unfamiliar with the subject. Sue

 

[ten chicks]

Yes,we will agree to disagree. I too have a medical background,so i am familiar with the terminology. My point was simply to state that coccidiosis abbreviated to cocci is acceptable when speaking about parasite,there was never any reference to medical documents containing the terminology "cocci". As for Kathy(The Chicken Chick) i have corresponded with her via her blog and website and i can assure you she verifies her information with a veterinarian before she posts information. Kathy is an excellent source of information regarding chicken care and her information is correct. I cannot understand why you never received a reply,as i have never had any problem with replies from her or from the vet(Mike the Chicken Vet) that she verifies much of her information from.

 

[Kessy09]

I guess I was just more fired up about not receiving a response and to find out that I was just blocked instead of being corresponded with that it made me more frustrated than it would typically. I definitely just don't go walking around correcting everyone I think is using medical terminology improperly. That would be asinine. Anyway, I'm ready to drop it now. Enjoy the beautiful weather we're expecting tomorrow-your silkies will love it.

 

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