The EE braggers thread!!!

jendodd79-

I am going to keep my fingers crossed for you.
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I say give it some more time & keep us posted. Some EEs are harder than others to sex IMO. I had a very hard time with my white w/black and I almost got rid of them because many people said they would be cockerels because of their coloring. I am really glad I waited.
 
My birds had definite worms, i fed garlic, pumpkin seeds, pumpkin, molassas feed................. Got a bit better, then still pooped out worms! (Tape and round) I do at least once a year worming. The oral ivermectin is supposed to treat roundworms and a few others, plus lice and mites :) Don't always work on the lice though, depending what kind you have (heresay)

Mine ended up having both large roundworms and tapeworms (I saw living evidence, no scope needed. Bleh) So to kill that i used horse wormer paste, i would have to look up the name again. Worked like a charm, I got my info from a worming thread. Scary, i will admit to using it on one of my roosters i was going to have to have butchered anyway due to aggressiveness; when he survived THEN i dared on my hens!

I have all kinds of medical links in my siggy link; hatching, disease diagnostic charts, medicine dosing charts, etc. I am still working on it, so some things are not written down. I do have a paper notebook for what wormers work on what kinds of worms, if anyone needs to ask :) The horse paste was the cheapest route and also killed the most types of worms, so that was the route i took. I think i will be doing a milder worming in the future, (oral ivermectin) but those tapes are hard to kill so i didn't mess around that time!
 
Nope. No ducks. Just us chickens. =)

Bridget is my matte grey layer. The grey color actually has a very very slight green tint to it.

You have a great color variety for your eggs! If you look at the inside of the eggshell with the membrane peeled away, it will probably look more blue. The grey comes from a layer of brownish pigment that coats the outer layer of the shell. The green color also comes from brown pigment as does olive, which is a very dark brown (ie Marans brown) over the blue shell.

So, what is the best way to treat for worms? And, should I treat them even if I am not sure that is what they have? It would be a good time since some of the chickens are molting and are not laying anyway. Can you treat all of them....even the 2 month olds, or just the older ones?
If one has worms, they probably all do. If you are worried about treating unnecessarily, take a poop sample to the vet for a "float test" and they will look for worms under the microscope. Call ahead to see that they accept chicken poop; it is usually inexpensive. Treatments vary, some require retreatment, and you should not eat the eggs during and for some time after any wormer is used. Ask at your feed store to see what works in your area.

Natural remedies sound like a great way to go. I have never wormed my flock, and would try some of these methods. Garlic can make the eggs garlicy tasting, but just add chives and they will be yummy! If your hen is really thin, something that gives her the runs for 3 days might be risky (?).

Just in case it's not worms, keep checking them for other symptoms. Birds will mask most illnesses, and by the time we notice, the problem can be quite serious.

It's 12 weeks old and the comb is smaller and less red than the 6 definite roos that have long saddle feathers. The back and tail are more similarly shaped to my definite hen girls. I wish I had a better comparison shot!

Am I crazy? Here's a comparison to my definite roo and this one - is there a difference?

This one has patchier colouring, and longer, tall tail feathers and definite saddles coming down



This is from a few days before the pictures I posted before, but is flatter backed and the feathers are rounder. Maybe it's just a slow grower :)
At 12 weeks a pullet's comb is usually quite pale, but I think it is a good idea to wait a bit and see for sure. The top pic has all the classic rooster signs, so I can see why this is confusing. Still leaning toward cockerel for this one, but hope I am wrong. Wait and see.
 
Natural methods are a good preventative, but once they get them they need meds to be free! The natural wormers only reduce the load! If you are ok with your birds having a "normal mild load" this is ok, but if you want worm free birds they need the good stuff. I truly did try everything else first, i don't like meds either. Did a lot of research on this, this is what i came up with


http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/disparas.htm
Lice
http://ohioline.osu.edu/vme-fact/0018.html
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=472405

Worms
http://healthybirds.umd.edu/Disease/Deworming Birds.pdf
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=576036&p=1
GAPEWORM - to check to be sure they have it, hold them in your lap, and take a Q-tip - open their mouth, then gently and slowly push the q-tip back into the back of their mouth, whle rotating it. Do the same when bringing it back out. If they have gapes, you'll see them on the q-tip (they are very small/thin and appear to have TWO heads).

Disease, dosing charts
https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/medicine-chart
http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/solutions.html
https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/the-ultimate-medicine-dosing-chart
http://www.xtremegamebirds.com/Dosage Chart.html
 
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It's 12 weeks old and the comb is smaller and less red than the 6 definite roos that have long saddle feathers. The back and tail are more similarly shaped to my definite hen girls. I wish I had a better comparison shot!
Do you have or can you take a full picture of the entire chicken?
 
Not trying to be a hard-butt, i just wanted to put the info out there; may change minds but perhaps not. For those who do decide to worm, there are dosing charts to guide you.

:)
 
Kassundra, It would make sense to do molasses and black walnut extract at the same time. I saw later today there is a farm that makes these big balls of wormwood (anti-parasitic) and molasses and uses it for all of their animals. I think the garlic actually kills them but I'm not 100%.

Fuzzybutt, it's good to hear what did and didn't work for you, it helps people make a decision. I'm only going on what I know is safe for humans, I'm not a vet.

Everyone needs to do what they are personally comfortable doing based on their best knowledge to take care of their chickens.
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Anyone know what color eggs the offspring of a minty green EE layer and a black australorp will produce? I just got a BA rooster and am hoping to hatch some eggs in the spring!
 
My birds had definite worms, i fed garlic, pumpkin seeds, pumpkin, molassas feed................. Got a bit better, then still pooped out worms! (Tape and round) I do at least once a year worming. The oral ivermectin is supposed to treat roundworms and a few others, plus lice and mites :) Don't always work on the lice though, depending what kind you have (heresay)

Mine ended up having both large roundworms and tapeworms (I saw living evidence, no scope needed. Bleh) So to kill that i used horse wormer paste, i would have to look up the name again. Worked like a charm, I got my info from a worming thread. Scary, i will admit to using it on one of my roosters i was going to have to have butchered anyway due to aggressiveness; when he survived THEN i dared on my hens!

I have all kinds of medical links in my siggy link; hatching, disease diagnostic charts, medicine dosing charts, etc. I am still working on it, so some things are not written down. I do have a paper notebook for what wormers work on what kinds of worms, if anyone needs to ask :) The horse paste was the cheapest route and also killed the most types of worms, so that was the route i took. I think i will be doing a milder worming in the future, (oral ivermectin) but those tapes are hard to kill so i didn't mess around that time!
I am the same want to use the horse paste. Ivermectin as well?> can not remember
 
I have used the horse paste of Ivermectin. pea size amount per adult LF. You can mix it in the water too. I think if you use the pour on Ivermectin it is 1-2 drops on the back of the neck. Wazine is an option too.... I don't use it really. The Ivermectin works better and kills more parasites.There is a withdrawal for Ivermecting something like 14 days, but it is ok to hatch just not eat. You can feed the eggs back to the chickens.
 
I have used the horse paste of Ivermectin. pea size amount per adult LF. You can mix it in the water too. I think if you use the pour on Ivermectin it is 1-2 drops on the back of the neck. Wazine is an option too.... I don't use it really. The Ivermectin works better and kills more parasites.There is a withdrawal for Ivermecting something like 14 days, but it is ok to hatch just not eat. You can feed the eggs back to the chickens.
I used wazine because it was all they had. in 2 weeks I will get the ivermectin. I was told wazine is good if they have round worms showing in the pooh.
Then follow up with Ivermectin.
 

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