The EE braggers thread!!!

[DMRippy]

That is a big part of it. If i sold an EE as an Am and they got a patterned chick i would be busted. The biggest reason is I dont breed my Ee to a standarx.... they are not single breed they are mutts! I have a PERFECT black am pullet in my EE pen..... she lays green eggs and i don't want green eggs in my Ams pen or my lav. I have 2 lav pullets and a roo and 1 pullet just started to lay.... and it Is green.....selling as an EE. I dont want green eggs in my ams.... i have bigger things to work on than introducing green eggs.

Now there are times when they are used but it is a hard hill to climb. It is morally not right for me to use or sell an EE as an ameraucana.

That's what I was thinking. Makes sense if that's your goal. (My goal is eggs and enjoyment, so mutts are great for me.)

How many generations of breeding pure does it take to call a strain a new variety? For instance, if someone was trying to create a new standard breed of Olive Eggers and potentially get it accapted by the APA and in the SOP? (Not talking about the time for red tape and/or politics of governing groups, just when you'd be satisfied with your birds.)

I read 5 breeders for 5 years. I know lavs. Came fromfrom EE. I do not lnow how many gens it took to get them to standards. They are not accepted yet.

 

[Twizzlebee]

I swear ameraucana breeders are worse than any other breed. I don't know if it's because they're irritated with all the EE's played off as AM's, or what. Their thread is going to end up getting closed down by a mod lol. I'm glad I never posted my EE's in there before I knew the difference

 

[Wishing4Wings]

I read 5 breeders for 5 years. I know lavs. Came fromfrom EE. I do not lnow how many gens it took to get them to standards. They are not accepted yet.

Oooooh, Lavender! So technically, since they are not accepted yet, they could be considered EEs, and since this is technically an EE thread, you could technically post some pics of Lavenders here?

Duh, just looked at your sig and will go to the Lavender thread.

 

[Nelson-90]

its very hard to distinguish and ee from an americana thats why they are so mean when you accidentaly post and ee on their thread its just wrong instead of telling you what the difference is they bark at you for making the mistake.

 

[DMRippy]

I read 5 breeders for 5 years. I know lavs. Came fromfrom EE. I do not lnow how many gens it took to get them to standards. They are not accepted yet.

Oooooh, Lavender! So technically, since they are not accepted yet, they could be considered EEs, and since this is technically an EE thread, you could technically post some pics of Lavenders here? 

Duh, just looked at your sig and will go to the Lavender thread.

Technically yes... they call them project colors. I dont think i have many or any on the lav thread..... go to my pics i may have some there.

Really it is not hard to tell the differance most of the time. Ams dont really come in patterns. It get harder for solid colors.

 

[Lilwanis]

The feedstore here, IFA, sells EE as Araucana, with a picture of a tufted rump less bird. It didn't take me long to figure out that the chick that I got was not an Araucana. She looked ate a bit more like an ameracauna (I always get the spelling wrong on these breeds). A few pages into that thread and I diagnosed her as an EE. When she died, I sought out a local breeder selling chicks. She sells both hatchery and pure SQ Am's. I intentionally chose the "EE americaunas" because I didn't want to pay more for straight run and I wouldnt be able to keep the Am pure (aka, I am not a breeder).

Anyhow, I get the ameracauna and Araucana frustration. There really aren't any other breeds out there that are so frequently mislabeled. It must be frustrating to put so much time, money, and energy into perfecting a breed that there is so much dishonesty about. By the same token, it seems like some of the breeders can be petty mean to the newbies out there...

 

[Lilwanis]

One thing that I love about the EE's is that there is such a following for them. If I post pics of any of my other HQ birds, they would get torn apart for being HQ. the EE's we get to enjoy for being the lovely birds that they are because there is not a standard. Just my two cents. They also seem to be the friendliest birds we have...I took some pics of pearl and opal a few days ago. I will have to find time at a regular computer so I can post them.

 

[Wishing4Wings]

The feedstore here, IFA, sells EE as Araucana, with a picture of a tufted rump less bird. It didn't take me long to figure out that the chick that I got was not an Araucana. She looked ate a bit more like an ameracauna (I always get the spelling wrong on these breeds). A few pages into that thread and I diagnosed her as an EE. When she died, I sought out a local breeder selling chicks. She sells both hatchery and pure SQ Am's. I intentionally chose the "EE americaunas" because I didn't want to pay more for straight run and I wouldnt be able to keep the Am pure (aka, I am not a breeder).
Anyhow, I get the ameracauna and Araucana frustration. There really aren't any other breeds out there that are so frequently mislabeled. It must be frustrating to put so much time, money, and energy into perfecting a breed that there is so much dishonesty about. By the same token, it seems like some of the breeders can be petty mean to the newbies out there...

Yes, I know what you mean. Seems it's less dishonesty and more lack of knowledge and agreement about names. If I go the the feed store where I got my hatchery EE and ask if they have any new EE chicks, they don't know what I'm talking about! The hatchery calls them Ameraucanas and hatcheries (I think?) have been calling them that before they were a recognized breed. Maybe they just don't want to give up the name!

The hatchery EEs I got about 25 years ago were called Araucana, and the debate at that time was that they should be relabeled Ameraucana. Does anyone know the origin of the "Easter Egger" name? I always assumed it was a hatchery brand, but I don't know.

Will the EE label include crosses of other breeds that lay blue eggs (Cream Legbars)? Seems like the only folks I've ever met who have even heard of EE are Ameraucana breeders or BYC members!

 

[Lilwanis]

Yes, I know what you mean. Seems it's less dishonesty and more lack of knowledge and agreement about names. If I go the the feed store where I got my hatchery EE and ask if they have any new EE chicks, they don't know what I'm talking about!  The hatchery calls them Ameraucanas and hatcheries (I think?) have been calling them that before they were a recognized breed. Maybe they just don't want to give up the name!

The hatchery EEs I got about 25 years ago were called Araucana, and the debate at that time was that they should be relabeled  Ameraucana.  Does anyone know the origin of the "Easter Egger" name? I always assumed it was a hatchery brand, but I don't know.

Will the EE label include crosses of other breeds that lay blue eggs (Cream Legbars)?  Seems like the only folks I've ever met who have even heard of EE are Ameraucana breeders or BYC members!

Very true about the EE term. I have a lot of local people tell me all about their Araucana. Usually it is to correct me when I call mine Easter eggers. I am not picky about it so I don't engage.."you mean Araucana." .yes that's what I meant

I have wondered about the cream legbars also. I suppose that a mixed one could be called an EE. What about one that doesn't conform?

 

[Wishing4Wings]

Very true about the EE term. I have a lot of local people tell me all about their Araucana. Usually it is to correct me when I call mine Easter eggers. I am not picky about it so I don't engage.."you mean Araucana." .yes that's what I meant

I have wondered about the cream legbars also. I suppose that a mixed one could be called an EE. What about one that doesn't conform?

It's really a matter of effective communication, isn't it? Don't mind which term is used as long as it's clear what it refers to.

Maybe we'll have to create a new name. Blue Egger? Some of the cream legbar are crested, so those could be Crested Eggers. I like the beard/muffs of the Ams though, so will probably stick with EEs. .....but those crests are cool too.....