The Evolution of Atlas: A Breeding (and Chat) Thread

[seminolewind]

Find out how much the shots cost out of pocket. My daughter was needing a medication, I forgot what it was, and it was not covered under her plan. I asked the pharmacist how much it cost, and the entire prescription was about $20.00. Find out what the out of pocket cost is.

Call the manufacturer of Prolia. Sometimes, they have things in place that they can't let people know about, unless they're denied coverage for it, or cancel due to not being able to afford the high cost.

It was that way with my Ibrance. When they first set me up, and she said my co-pay was over $3,000.00 a month, I about fainted. I told her to cancel, since there was NO WAY I could afford that. She told me to stay on the phone. In a minute she returned, and asked me a few questions, then told me I qualified for a program that would pick up most, if not all of the co-pay. She explained the most I would pay out of pocket was $5.00. She submitted my info, and I don't pay any co-pay.

When there are multiple manufacturers of a similar medication with the same active ingredient(s), but varying inert ingredients, each of the insurance companies will negotiate a deal with one of them. Often times, when a person is an exception, and can't tolerate that particular brand of medication due to one of the inert ingredients, they act like that's just too bad, and nothing can be done. Sometimes it's worth the phone call, and things can be worked out nicely.

BTW, see if Reclast is an option.

Yea they tried with my ibrance. Medicare denied it, the doc resubmitted it and they agreed to pay all of it for 2 years.

 

[seminolewind]

Everyone is an expert. Especially now in the new Internet world, where information and misinformation are equally available. Obviously, just like many medical professionals, he is insulated from broader knowledge and does not know it. If you are a hammer, everything is a nail.

Robin, antihistamines only take the edge off my itching. I use Pramasoothe spray (the one without cortisone) and it works amazingly well to reduce the itching. It is a veterinary product, and there are other similar sprays (active ingredient is Pramoxine).

YES everyone's an expert. Cynthia I agree with you. I will continue to eat the eggs,milk products, meat etc. I think they keep you healthy. I think the bad stuff that will kill you is stuff like Twinkle where they mix sugar and fat together and that stuff becomes a portion of your diet.

 

[seminolewind]

Sheesh, my internet is from my phone as a hot spot because we can't get cable out here. For 3 days the signal has been too slow for my laptop to pick it up. It finally woke up an hour ago. Makes me mad.
Hubs collapsed and got taken to the hospital. They dx'd him with pneumonia and sepsis. Luckily he comes home tomorrow morning.
Then, my sister the alcoholic allegedly drank so much that the hospital sent her to a bigger hospital in Tampa. She's been seizing and running a temp and dehydrated and may have more permanent damage. Problem is no one in the family has any information, her husband is a dunking a $$hole, her daughter doesn't call me back. So the only one I got to talk to is my nephew who's been dealing with her long distance.

So sad when there isn't anything we can do. I'm sorry she ended up this way. My dead ex husband drank himself to death. It's just a waste of a life, and as a kid my sister never said "when I grow up I want to be an alcoholic"

 

[getaclue]

The vegan diet is not entirely healthy either. There are common health issues they experience, due to a lack of enzymes found in meat, that are needed. A diet, with a moderate amount of fat, with as wide a variety as possible, with as little of it being overly processed, in correct proportions based on age, and activity, still tends to be the overall healthiest diet. That does not mean an occasional piece of pie, or cake is unhealthy. It does not mean that too strict a diet in regards to variety is healthy either.

 

[seminolewind]

The vegan diet is not entirely healthy either. There are common health issues they experience, due to a lack of enzymes found in meat, that are needed. A diet, with a moderate amount of fat, with as wide a variety as possible, with as little of it being overly processed, in correct proportions based on age, and activity, still tends to be the overall healthiest diet. That does not mean an occasional piece of pie, or cake is unhealthy. It does not mean that too strict a diet in regards to variety is healthy either.

I agree!

Those vegans are also not getting the steroids from food that the body needs.

 

[getaclue]

seminolewind, Not all choices are made when people are children. No, she did not make that choice as a child, but has made it as an adult. In dealing with my brother, and his ex wife, regarding their drugs, one of the places she went through rehab, they had classes for family members. I went. I'm so glad I did. Something they stressed, which I already knew, but had to hear out loud from someone else, was that ONLY they have control, and power over their addiction. Regardless of whether the addiction is drugs, or alcohol. Almost all forms of "help" are not help, but are enabling them.
Yes, it's sad.

 

[getaclue]

BTW, I did not say that to be mean. I said that so you don't put yourself through the "maybe if I had", "well, I could have", "maybe I should have", spiral. Take peace of mind that, while her state is very sad, it IS what she not only chose, but worked hard to maintain.

 

[speckledhen]

Sheesh, my internet is from my phone as a hot spot because we can't get cable out here. For 3 days the signal has been too slow for my laptop to pick it up. It finally woke up an hour ago. Makes me mad.
Hubs collapsed and got taken to the hospital. They dx'd him with pneumonia and sepsis. Luckily he comes home tomorrow morning.
Then, my sister the alcoholic allegedly drank so much that the hospital sent her to a bigger hospital in Tampa. She's been seizing and running a temp and dehydrated and may have more permanent damage. Problem is no one in the family has any information, her husband is a dunking a $$hole, her daughter doesn't call me back. So the only one I got to talk to is my nephew who's been dealing with her long distance.

So sad when there isn't anything we can do. I'm sorry she ended up this way. My dead ex husband drank himself to death. It's just a waste of a life, and as a kid my sister never said "when I grow up I want to be an alcoholic"

My biological mother drank herself to death at 52. She was molested as a teenager by her father, she had my older sister at 16 and married the father, had an affair with another married young guy by whom she got pregnant and had me at 18, just after her divorce from the first one became final (I was born with his name, Fuller, and he was executed by Castro's firing squads at 25, fighting with the rebels to get the family's land back). She was forced to give me up by her alcoholic mother-both my grandparents were alcoholics. I've found her arrest records where she was taken in for public drunkenness, disburbing the peace. Her childhood friend said she would get so drunk, she'd get beat up and once was thrown in a dumpster. The entire family was just sad and dysfunctional. I don't drink. Tom doesn't drink. Neither of us like the taste or like being out of control in any way and then, we found this information out. My mother died, supposedly of liver cancer. She literally pickled it. My life could not have been more different.

 

[seminolewind]

Cynthia, I never could even have guessed how traumatic that was. Breaks my heart to hear someone's been thru all that. Hugs!

 

[seminolewind]

Getaclue, I never thought you were being mean. It took me years to stop my parents from their good intentioned enabling. I learned all that from classes I took due to my dead ex husband. It all does sneak up on you.

My sister is just like my ex was. And he never stopped. My sister has her 2nd round of brain damage from drinking. I hear she was discharged and sounds coherent on the phone with her son. Most people don't understand that there's nothing they can do. She needs to pray.