The first GRIP RITE D-i-v-o-r-c-e

[EweSheep]

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We only put the roofing cement on the edges where the end of roof and gutters and prevents ice dams. Every thing is sealed when we installed the membranes and metal flashings and the paper wrap before we put up the siding.

Yep we do not use Harbor Frieght junk, hubby got two clamps from there and they both snapped and one time it struck his eyebrow, nearly putting an eye out! I told him that my own family are die hard Craftman tool users and buyers and Craftman is the way to go. So hubby slowly stock up on Craftman tools in lawn and auto and shop things.

 

[fwschrom]

Well from a DH who is handy here are maybe some helps:

hammer....use a heavy corrigated head hammer. I have four I use depending on applictation. lightest is a 22 ounce ( finese ), a 24 ounce, and two 28 ounce hammers. I watch my 21 year old drive nails it drives me crazy...he averages about one in three, he is wearing out the cats paw. It has to do with you must hit a nail straight on the head to drive it

Saws...get a decent sidewinder like a skil, I have been cutting material for 38 years and I still have problems with cheap or non sidewinder saws
a decent chop saw is essential for some jobs
use carbide tip blades on both the skil and the chop saw ( use a more toothed finer blade on the chop saw

Tools in general: some jobs require certain tools, there are no short cuts, just long way arounds and not the finished product you had in mind. I have a lot of tools and machinery, I have spent a lifetime collecting ( and sometimes building ) the tools I have and I still need to go out and buy something on occasion ( although most of my purchases are replacing something that is worn out lately )

Sons, Son-in-laws, and obviously some hubbies on this thread: There are individuals that have zero mechanical ability, thinking....doing...executing. I have one son and a son-in-law that fit that ticket exactly. They are basically accidents waiting to happen, have four thumbs instead of fingers and some other kind of useless organ for a thumb, and I won't even go into what they are thinking when they donk something up. Every time I get help from either one, I end up with something broken, a hammer handle, a shovel handle, cut the cord on my chop saw ( it was brand new not 3 days old ), the list goes on. When I get help from them I am very patient, explain exactly step by step what I want or expect. I have found that they do much better when I do that and both I and them are a lot less frustrated if I take time to do this. If I expect them to know how to do something I am doomed. Needless to say I don't really use either one on projects, everything takes three times as long to do, I am a lot less frustrated and so are theywhen I don't ask for help.

Here are some pics of my current project. It snowballed thanks to our local county not letting me repair my roof and I ended up ripping off the old roof and putting on new trusses. I am not happy Then my wife who has been gone for a week comes home last night, and starts ranting about I didn't vacuum and mop the floor ( I did just not to her oriental crazy standard ), no I spent the last two days in the rain working on pouring concrete and crawling around on the roof installing hurricane ties ( really hard it is an existing structure and they are just a bugger to put on).

It was 9:00 before I had the first thing to eat yesterday cause I was so busy and she is complaining ( which I made). I just went to bed and didn't talk to her. This is after a smart remark yesterday on the phone from California about whether I was going to get this done before it snows

BTW she hasn't picked up one board or nail...help....ZIP

Any way here are some pics for the frustrated, I need to get this finished up, I wish I was working on a smaller project, I really don't like doing roofing work at my age, and I keep saying this is the last project like this to myself. Maybe this will cheer you guys up knowing this isn't your project.

Anyway got to go, I am trying to get this done for a framing inspection.

 

[welsummerchicks]

I want to sincerely thank everyone who contributed to this thread. It's very useful and instructive. I hope more people can contribute.

Royd, I'll send you a ticket up to the Nawth, LOL. It can be your premiere TCC (Traveling Coop Consultant) project.

Or I WOULD, except I am so over budget and out of time already, LOL, I will just have to get it put together however I can.

 

[EweSheep]

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

I NEVER use nails. ALWAYS use either screws (using the cordless drill for installation) or staples. For roofing it would probably have been screws. You can get fender washers that will serve the same purpose as the orange ones on the grip tites.

 

[EweSheep]

the problem with screws on roofing, when it is time to replace, you will not only have a hard time pulling them out, but you can tear up your rafters and beams. Use screws for your foundation, walls, trusses and OSB boardings on top of the roof. It will give them strength and durablitity.

 

[seismic wonder2]

My pet peeve...

Ladies (and many guys) They put a 12 to 16 inch handle on a hammer for a reason....

PLEASE don't hold a hammer near the head. It's unstable and extremely in efficient.

Use your arm NOT your wrist to swing a hammer.
It's physics. Let the hammer drive the nail, let your arm drive the hammer. Keep everything lined up and let the hammer do the work and you (yes YOU!) can drive a 16b nail in three hits.

I LOVE to listen to carpenters working, I hear "Tap, whack, whack, thonk!, tap, whack, whack, thonk!"

 

[EweSheep]

me too, such a nice sound!

 

[welsummerchicks]

I love the sound of a nail being 'eaten up' and change in tone as it goes into the lumber.

I listened for some time to a metallic rattle going on and on when the Amish team built my barn and trotted out to see it was the hurricane ties they were putting up, jingle jingle jingle on the first couple of nails til the last one goes in.

The funniest thing was when the man delivered the trusses (70 ft wide trusses) and after making a chuck wagon style turn with that huge long truck, a VERY dramatic entrance thru the woods, shouted out, 'Whos the boss here!' and all the Amish guys got really nervous and paralyzed looking.

No one wanted to step up and say, 'me! I'm the boss!' That's just their culture. The truss driver shouted out, 'Allen! Allen Miller! Hey, you gotta get more confidence in yourself' and slapped him on the back. he totally missed that it is just their culture that they don't put themselves forward.

But the funniest thing was how they talk in a group. No one holds the floor long. Everyone gets a chance to speak briefly. Again not putting yiourself foward.

 

[cmjust0]

As a DH who gets griped at a lot for not completing all my honeydo's and then gets griped at even more when honey decides she's tired of waiting and is just gonna do it herself...and quickly realizes how all those little things that "shouldn't be that hard" really are as irritatingly difficult and time consuming as I TRIED TO EXPLAIN that they would be...I'll say this:

Just because we're guys, and traditional gender roles dictate that we're "supposed" to be responsible for doing this kind of work doesn't make it OK for y'all to expect us to jump right up and get it done when you say we should jump right up and get it done.

Traditional gender roles go both ways, ya know..

How would y'all feel if we came in one day and said "Why isn't supper on the table, woman? It shouldn't be that hard..."

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