The Front Porch Swing

[BCMaraniac]

Bees... I wish I had some bees.

Me too, TW. I bet it would have been hard to keep them alive with this bitterly cold winter, though.

 

[Triple Willow]

Me too, TW.  I bet it would have been hard to keep them alive with this bitterly cold winter, though.

I bet you're right! I guess you could bring them in the house...? Not! LOL I thought about getting some once but checked on it and saw how much I didn't know! Doesn't look too easy to me.

 

[lindz8504]

Don't know, except maybe somehow wrap it so it is immobile. If the bird is in pain I just don't know how to help it so sorry!

Wish I could help Lindz. Where is it broken at?

I'm not even sure that it is.... Ratchet had one of my Black Copper Marans pullets dragging her around the yard. She is in shock, her nose was bloody and she is holding one of her wings funny, like she can't hold it up. She is in my bathroom, and is kinda panting.... She wouldn't drink anything when I offered.... I'm really afraid that she isn't going to make it.

This was right after I got back from taking my son to the ER for slicing the bottom of his foot open.... There are just so much going on right now, and I'm about to the breaking point... I really need a good nights sleep, and some prayers!

 

[TexasLisa]

I'm not even sure that it is.... Ratchet had one of my Black Copper Marans pullets dragging her around the yard. She is in shock, her nose was bloody and she is holding one of her wings funny, like she can't hold it up. She is in my bathroom, and is kinda panting.... She wouldn't drink anything when I offered.... I'm really afraid that she isn't going to make it.

This was right after I got back from taking my son to the ER for slicing the bottom of his foot open.... There are just so much going on right now, and I'm about to the breaking point... I really need a good nights sleep, and some prayers!

Lindz I am praying for you, your son, and your chicken. When you can, would love to hear how he sliced his foot open.

Lisa

 

[Triple Willow]

I'm not even sure that it is.... Ratchet had one of my Black Copper Marans pullets dragging her around the yard.  She is in shock, her nose was bloody and she is holding one of her wings funny, like she can't hold it up.  She is in my bathroom, and is kinda panting.... She wouldn't drink anything when I offered.... I'm really afraid that she isn't going to make it.

This was right after I got back from taking my son to the ER for slicing the bottom of his foot open.... There are just so much going on right now, and I'm about to the breaking point... I really need a good nights sleep, and some prayers!

We can do that! That's what we're here for.

 

[LBejaran]

That is okay. I have a whole lot of friends who are not Christians. I don't love them any less.

You say you do believe there is a God. How powerful is the God you say is there? Is He powerful enough to inspire men to write what He wants in a book for Him? A teacher once described this to me and it has stuck for some time. Imagine there are many people of many different religions looking out a window through a set of blinds. Outside, there is a car; colorful, shiny, immaculate. Everyone is seeing some part of the car, but they can't tell what it is, so they interpret what they see and make guesses about it. When they all talk about it, they argue because they are all convinced this car is one thing or another. In reality, it is a single car, but they all see it differently based on their perception/perspective. Now, the car is God and the people are all of us who want to believe in him. We just aren't seeing him right. We're looking through the same blinds, but we just can't seem to agree on what we're seeing. For hundred of years before the Bible was even written, people were worshiping Gods/God. That sort of ultimate power over the universe is what I'm talking about. However, loads of people worship God and interpret his message in different ways. Not every single way we interpret Him will be right/wrong.

No they are really not.

Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I see change. Not all of it is for the better, but some of it is. Not everything is black or white. Some people are seeing the gray matter and how we can fix problems without being extreme. It's easier for loads of people to be extreme, but the people who create solutions know that there is a balance to be had. It's something unique to the generations of the past couple centuries, I think.

I know I would feel bad if I really humiliated my kid. I believe that would damage the relationship.

Perhaps it is only my family that can tease and ridicule a little bit without tarnishing familial bonds, haha! That being said, I was joking. This conversation got way too serious and though I was venting, I've got a sense of humor as well. Do I really intend to embarrass my children astronomically? Nope, probably not. I may tease them a bit or play little pranks on them, but I'll love them and cherish our relationship.

There are atheists who raise their children to be just as morally sound as Christian/Jewish/Muslim/Buddhist parents. There is no Ultimate Parenting Guide that says that raising your child in any other denomination will sentence them to a life of immorality. These same people may also discipline children in different ways. I would use humor to help my child understand that acting good or bad will have consequences. Some parents will use harsh words or strong hands or gentle murmurs. No parent will be perfect and we will learn from it when it is too late to change things, but miraculously, some of our children will forgive us for the mistakes because they learned from us or from their elders or from their heroes how to move past the mistakes.

And I bid adieu to this conversation. It's been nice, but ultimately, I was venting and now I am free of the stress and anger I felt previously. I appreciate everyone's kind words and generous advice. This is one reason I try and make it to the front porch when I have the time. When I start to feel a weight on my shoulders, you all are the ones lifting it off me and reminding me that I'm as strong as Atlas.

 

[Blooie]

I've been out of the loop all day! I've been all "cooped up"! Sorry, couldn't resist a bad chicken pun! We have all of the structure built! Now we have to put in the people door, cut the opening for the pop door, put in the window, and get the soffits with the ventilation installed!

With any luck the girls - and the gentleman - will be outside this weekend, and it's perfect timing! Saturday night the overnight low will be 49 -and it hasn't been that warm here for months! (and months, and months, and.....)

Posted a picture of Sweet Charlotte on the forum. I'd been suspecting she was a he for over a week now. I was right. Funny, because when the chicks arrived and I got him out of the box he was limping badly. I checked for anything funny and didn't see or feel anything wrong, but he limped nonetheless. I started him on vitamins and kept him nice and warm, made sure he ate and drank, and he just stayed so weak, but hanging in there. He got better, but he's still so much smaller than the other Buff Orpingtons....really tiny. He's still smaller, but he's a he and he's a terror. He definitely rules the brooder -if the girls are in his way he just bites them in the kneecaps or bulldozes under them.

Had to tell Katie last night when she came over to bring them some kale that Sweet Charlotte is now Charlie. She was stunned.

"Why would she want to turn into a boy? Doesn't she know that means a trip to freezer camp?" I didn't even know she knew what that meant! But I told her we'd find him a home. Now if Gladys, Pearl, Dahpne, and Agatha turn out to be roosters I'll be in BIG trouble!


Sweet Charlotte - er - Charlie. No use trying to deny it, is there?

 

[perchie.girl]

I'll be totally honest with you. I'm not a "Christian". I believe in God and I know that somewhere up there, he's watching out for us. He's all-knowing and he has plans for us. However, I don't think any man-written book can tell me how to believe. Actually, let me rephrase that.

I don't believe any man-written book can fully encompass how the world works and how it will work. Just like you wouldn't get medical advice from an outdated medical journal, you probably shouldn't raise your kids the way they did back then. Just like how if we dealt with adulterers the same way as we did back then, everyone in your old workplace would be dead.

That's not to say those old ideals can't be put to use. Some things never change and one of those things is learning from our parents/guardians. It's in our nature to learn from those older and more experienced than us. Being taught discipline from an older, trusted adult is the norm. We see it in nature, we see it in other countries, we see it in our own homes.

People are different now. I'd like to think that many people have a more evolved idea of how the world works. We process information differently now. Back then, people would be rioting for you to stone a man to death for sedition. Nowadays, we hail people who do that because they are speaking out for something.

I'm not saying that the Bible is wrong or that it is right. This is just my two cents on the matter.

Besides, why spank your kid when you can instead embarrass them? If my child ever did something that demanded discipline, I'd make them red in the face until they learned never to cross Mama again. It's a much more satisfying punishment, too, because they'll always remember it.....

Especially when you're the one retelling tales of it when they are in their fifties.

I am not Christian either... at best I am Agnostic... I believe all religions fit the needs of the people who follow them. I do have a problem with the Bible for similar reasons. All religions will have the same issues. And its for purely scientific reasons... Translation. as human language has evolved so has some of the meanings of words. Sanskrit to Hebrew to Greek to English (from the dark ages) to King James.... to modern English... Even if the translator's hand was guided by a Divine being. There will be some changes to meaning.

That being said I think the Bible is a beautiful piece of literature. ANd an excellent set of rules to live your life by No matter the translation.

Please dont blast me its not fair. I have a right to my point of view. I rarely voice it.

deb

 

[Beekissed]

Wow...you girls have been solving the world's problems today! I am so proud of you all that you can have a level-headed, normal discourse about such a sensitive subject. I am so thankful to the Lord that so many of you have compassion, wisdom and faith in the Lord enough to be able to teach without frustration or heaviness in your views and speech. In short, I love you all so much for the wonderful fellowship you provide and how you are able to put yourself aside to help others and to preserve the integrity of this thread. Thank you and I thank the good Lord!

 

[Beekissed]

We had snow last night and are in the middle of a white out blizzard right now! Lovely!