The Great Egg Shipping Experiment!

Ok..... This is how I got my unbroken leghorn eggs, but this is a bad way to ship eggs, right?



I thought from reading this thread that......
supposedly the all time best packaging method is: Double boxed with some kind of packaging between the two boxes (packing peanuts or bubble wrap) with eggs from that morning (the smaller the air cell the less likely that it will break loose). Use either foam or bubble wrap or tissue/paper towel then bubble wrap or foam pipe insulation to wrap eggs individually, but leaving the egg tops free so that they can breathe (so do not encase each egg completely in plastic). Put in one layer of eggs, all pointed end down, then a layer of foam or bubble wrap then the next layer of eggs. Make sure, using tape or packaging that eggs can not wiggle and bump against each other. When addressing the box put ALL wording on the top only, only things on the sides should be up arrows (wanna help encourage the postal workers to keep it upright). Also, depending on where you are sending it to, if there is a risk of the box being set on a doorstep in rain or snow or 100 F heat, write HOLD FOR PICK UP, with a number on the side.

Those are the best tips that I could come up with (GREAT job!) so far in this Great Egg Shipping Experiment. It may or may not be the "all time best method," but for this experiment, it is!

Thank you for the 'Cliff Notes' version.
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Thanks..... Someone had asked on a facebook site about best shipping methods, and I had posted that response, I got this as a response:

Are you a beginner?

Bubble wrap is an eggs friend.


And well, :confused: where did that come from?

So, someone else posted that they shipped 1,000 eggs a year in the egg carton method (see picture above), and that that was the best method.

I wasn't gonna say anything...... it is true that the eggs I got that were shipped in cartons showed up perfect.......

But I thought that some of you'll who order shipped eggs all of the time, said you hated the egg carton method.
 
I have never tried that method, myself, nor have I ever had any shipped to me that way. Maybe I should try it. Anyone want some mixed eggs for the cost of shipping (using the egg carton method)??

Alaskan, see if you can get the person to tell you step-by-step how they do it. Toilet tissue around the egg, egg in a carton, carton wrapped in bubble wrap, packing material around that, single boxed....anything else?
 
There has never been a large enough trial with a controlled group of eggs to determine the best method.

Anecdotally and in theory bubble wrap, eggs placed on upright position and double boxed should be the best.

I recently received eggs that were in cartoons with pine shavings filling all voids. I had 17 dozen arrive that way in two boxes from a hatchery.

Different breeds in the same box had huge differences in hatchability. Some as high as seventy percent. Others zip.

I have sent a proposal to the owner of byc to assist in a study looking at how people received eggs, their incubation method and hatchability.

The proposal is for a study of two hundred or more batches of shipped eggs over a twelve month period.

I hope to hear back from Rob this week.
 
I have never tried that method, myself, nor have I ever had any shipped to me that way.  Maybe I should try it.  Anyone want some mixed eggs for the cost of shipping (using the egg carton method)??

Alaskan, see if you can get the person to tell you step-by-step how they do it.  Toilet tissue around the egg, egg in a carton, carton wrapped in bubble wrap, packing material around that, single boxed....anything else?


Nope, that was it. A good layer of packing peanuts between the egg cartons and the box. The bubble wrap around the egg carton taped closed so the carton is tightly shut, no wiggles.
 
Too Too Many Variables for any study to mean Zip. I personally would take eggs shipped using the bubble wrapped double boxed method. Not a fan of the egg carton, tissue method.

Dan
 
no worries

you dont need to participate

For your information I don't plan on it nor do I participate in the many of the meaningless Studies that the government is always spending our money on. Common sense goes a Long way! It is lacking in our government as well as many other things today. Enjoy!! I know you will!

Dan
 
For your information I don't plan on it nor do I participate in the many of the meaningless Studies that the government is always spending our money on. Common sense goes a Long way! It is lacking in our government as well as many other things today. Enjoy!! I know you will!

Dan
cool you jets. I am doing this for personal interest. I am sorry that it or I has pressed your buttons. I promise it wont cost you a dime.

Any study is useful if its large enough to get sample sizes to create statistically significant data.

Common sense tells us that the biggest factor is what happens from when the eggs are given to the PO until when they get to the recipient.




A Proposal

THE EFFECTS OF SHIPPING ON CHICKEN HATCHING EGGS

The object of this project is to understand the variables that effect hatch rates on shipped eggs, study a large enough sample size to have statistical significance in identifying the variables that effect hatch rates and to develop conclusions that may help the recipients of shipped hatching eggs improve their hatch.

On any given day in the USA there are thousands of boxes of eggs shipped to back yard chicken fanciers purchased on eBay, through forums such as BackYardChickens.com, social media sites including Facebook as well as private websites.

The sellers of these eggs range from peers of the recipients to high production hatcheries.

Personal experience as well as reports on BackYardChickens.com indicate that hatch rates on these eggs vary from abysmal to fair but rarely as high as locally hatched eggs. These hatch rates remain anecdotal. Exhaustive literature searches of scientific journals yields no meaningful data

The study design will consist of enrolling backyard chicken fanciers who hatch shipped eggs. Participants must have ordered no less than twelve shipped eggs and hatch no less than 6 local eggs simultaneously in the same incubators.

Data will be collected for twelve months at minimum, and until at least 2000 shipped eggs have been studied. Ideally we would like 250 participant hatches with a minimum of 3000 eggs.

The research will provide insight into:
  • Packaging materials
  • Shipping methods and times
  • The effects of visibly detectable rough handling of eggs including outcomes
  • Differences hatch rates based on resting periods and turning
  • Air cell problem management
  • Variances when eggs are hatched at differences in elevation above sea level between shipper and recipient.

Study participants will receive access to an electronic form to submit their data. They will be given a data dictionary to ensure data accuracy.

The only demographic on the study participant collected will be zip code. This will be used to assess shipping distance and variances in elevation above sea level. The zip codes will not be published.
 
cool you jets. I am doing this for personal interest. I am sorry that it or I has pressed your buttons. I promise it wont cost you a dime.

Any study is useful if its large enough to get sample sizes to create statistically significant data.

Common sense tells us that the biggest factor is what happens from when the eggs are given to the PO until when they get to the recipient.




A Proposal

THE EFFECTS OF SHIPPING ON CHICKEN HATCHING EGGS

The object of this project is to understand the variables that effect hatch rates on shipped eggs, study a large enough sample size to have statistical significance in identifying the variables that effect hatch rates and to develop conclusions that may help the recipients of shipped hatching eggs improve their hatch.

On any given day in the USA there are thousands of boxes of eggs shipped to back yard chicken fanciers purchased on eBay, through forums such as BackYardChickens.com, social media sites including Facebook as well as private websites.

The sellers of these eggs range from peers of the recipients to high production hatcheries.

Personal experience as well as reports on BackYardChickens.com indicate that hatch rates on these eggs vary from abysmal to fair but rarely as high as locally hatched eggs. These hatch rates remain anecdotal. Exhaustive literature searches of scientific journals yields no meaningful data

The study design will consist of enrolling backyard chicken fanciers who hatch shipped eggs. Participants must have ordered no less than twelve shipped eggs and hatch no less than 6 local eggs simultaneously in the same incubators.

Data will be collected for twelve months at minimum, and until at least 2000 shipped eggs have been studied. Ideally we would like 250 participant hatches with a minimum of 3000 eggs.

The research will provide insight into:
  • Packaging materials
  • Shipping methods and times
  • The effects of visibly detectable rough handling of eggs including outcomes
  • Differences hatch rates based on resting periods and turning
  • Air cell problem management
  • Variances when eggs are hatched at differences in elevation above sea level between shipper and recipient.

Study participants will receive access to an electronic form to submit their data. They will be given a data dictionary to ensure data accuracy.

The only demographic on the study participant collected will be zip code. This will be used to assess shipping distance and variances in elevation above sea level. The zip codes will not be published.

LOL!! You think every box shipped gets the same handlers and/or handling? How are you going to handle that variable? I value you my time more than to waste it doing some study where there are way too many variables to know much less control. Jets are plenty Cool! I could actually care less what others do with their time. Anybody with one eye & half sense knows in a study like this with all the unknown variables it is of questionable use. How were eggs collected? Health of Flock? How were eggs Stored? A study might be a good way to get discounted eggs though.
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With all the variables no wonder such differing results are reported. I doubt a study will be of any value in reshaping the ways eggs are shipped. Like I said enjoy! I'll just stick with experience and common sense.

Dan
 

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