The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

Just turned 11 weeks old and going strong...


I am hopeful you will get some really nice birds. They have quite a bit of growing but don't give up. One of my males wasn't my first choice but with nice females he has produced some very fine chicks. I now have 4 families, Champ, Sonny, Wallace and Skipper. All fine males. Wallace is a nice male but not as nice as the others in my opinion but he does produce very fine chicks.
 
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I am hopeful you will get some really nice birds. They have quite a bit of growing but don't give up. One of my males wasn't my first choice but with nice females he has produced some very fine chicks. I now have 4 families, Champ, Sonny, Wallace and Skipper. All fine males. Wallace is a nice male but not as nice as the others in my opinion but he does produce very fine chicks.
Oh, I'm not even thinking about giving up! I know it's still early, but I see great potential in these birds. I try to envision what they'll transform into this Fall, but only time will tell if I'm right. While I'm seeing some heavy lacing in the hackles some birds, and very little ticking in others, I realize this may change dramatically when they get their adult feathers. I'm soaking every detail in like a sponge, and will pay close attention to the changes to see if I can detect patterns. Still working on breeding details. I know to not mate dark males to dark females, and a mating a male with smut to a female with little black can throw beautiful chicks, etc. I just wish I could have someone with experience on hand when I make my choice of breeders to make sure I make good decisions. If nothing else, I'll have to flood this thread and FB with detailed pics and descriptions of each bird so I can get 2nd, 3rd, 50th opinions...
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Oh, I'm not even thinking about giving up! I know it's still early, but I see great potential in these birds. I try to envision what they'll transform into this Fall, but only time will tell if I'm right. While I'm seeing some heavy lacing in the hackles some birds, and very little ticking in others, I realize this may change dramatically when they get their adult feathers. I'm soaking every detail in like a sponge, and will pay close attention to the changes to see if I can detect patterns. Still working on breeding details. I know to not mate dark males to dark females, and a mating a male with smut to a female with little black can throw beautiful chicks, etc. I just wish I could have someone with experience on hand when I make my choice of breeders to make sure I make good decisions. If nothing else, I'll have to flood this thread and FB with detailed pics and descriptions of each bird so I can get 2nd, 3rd, 50th opinions...
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I think you're pretty knowledgable...at least to a newbie like me
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. We are all trying to learn something here. I think your birds look very nice and have a lot of potential. Hackle color is something that is very tricky to breed out, so I hope you are planning on culling those with overly marked hackles. And yes, like you said, it very well could change hugely when they molt. My birds(not RIRs) are starting to molt right now and they are 12 weeks. They'll be into their adult feathers soon hopefully. Of course, I wont be getting rid of them until they are really old, since you can't really tell who will be a champ or a cull until at least 6 months. I can't wait to see how yours turn out. I remember when you were posting on this thread with pics of them still in the incubator! Its fun to see how they grow up, and I will be sure to take lots of notes on who you cull and for what reasons.
 
Many of my birds were close to a year old before they reached their full potential. These Reds, in my opinion, bloom later than hatchery stock and other breeds. My Leghorns mature well before my Reds do but that is expected. I don't usually get my first egg before 8 to 9 months.
 
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Many of my birds were close to a year old before they reached their full potential. These Reds, in my opinion, bloom later than hatchery stock and other breeds. My Leghorns mature well before my Reds do but that is expected. I don't usually get my first egg before 8 to 9 months.
No doubt they mature more slowly. Hatchery birds are developed to mature quickly and start laying sooner. Our RIR build skeleton and organs first, then put on the meat. Since they develop slower, they also tend to lay and live longer than hatchery birds. There's no instant gratification in either type of birds, but the wait is a bit longer with purebreds. With good birds, it's worth the wait...
 
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I think you're pretty knowledgable...at least to a newbie like me
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. We are all trying to learn something here. I think your birds look very nice and have a lot of potential. Hackle color is something that is very tricky to breed out, so I hope you are planning on culling those with overly marked hackles. And yes, like you said, it very well could change hugely when they molt. My birds(not RIRs) are starting to molt right now and they are 12 weeks. They'll be into their adult feathers soon hopefully. Of course, I wont be getting rid of them until they are really old, since you can't really tell who will be a champ or a cull until at least 6 months. I can't wait to see how yours turn out. I remember when you were posting on this thread with pics of them still in the incubator! Its fun to see how they grow up, and I will be sure to take lots of notes on who you cull and for what reasons.
The credit for how my birds look goes to cmom. She bred them. The next generations are on me, and my breeding selections will either make... or break me. I won't give up if it doesn't go perfectly the first time around. I'll simply try again...
 
I hatch out a couple hundred and more chicks each year. I do pick my males to go with certain females. I am already starting to cull the younger birds I'm certain I don't want to keep for breeding both males and females. I am taking them to swap meets where people are more interested in what I call yard candy. They are all nice birds but some are nicer than others. The culls will make fine birds for people who just want them as pets, for eggs and meat. Some of mine will go into the freezer. Right now I'm trying to recoup some of the costs as it costs a lot to feed a lot of birds for several months with no return, so selling a few helps with the feed bill. It is a labor of love. I do love the birds and watching them grow and figuring out who will make it to the breeding pens for next years chicks. I also have some project chicks and one of my projects for this year I also did last year so this was a confirmation for the hatches. Those birds are very fine birds and will make excellent layers and also will produce well for a few years instead of a couple and some of the males will go to freezer camp.
 
I just wanted to post this to show the importance of good feed. This first pic was taken when I first got her:
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And then this, taken today, about 2 months later.
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Sorry for the bad pic. It was hard to get a good shot with her moving and all the other hens getting in the way. My Ameraucana kinda photo bombed the picture, lol. But anyway, just look at the difference in how pronounced her chest is. I really think she is showing a nice brick shape in the last pic.
 
Tomorrow marks 12 weeks for my 11 older chicks, and their pen looks like a massacre has taken place. Feathers everywhere. I had intended to to take some pics for their 12 week update, but I think I'll pass on that for a little while. Maybe in a couple of weeks things will be looking a little better...
 

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