The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

[HallFamilyFarm]

What is worse? Hearing the truth on this thread about your hatchery quality birds or hearing from a poultry judge at a show?

Folks who sell hatchery quality as "Heritage" are committing fraud, even if they do not know it.

It is not being rude to try an educate folks. Especially on a thread titled "The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site" and started with the intent to educate folks. Posting on the production Red threads would be offensive. But posting the truth about Heritage RIR (aka Standard of Perfection bred) is not rude. I admit, sometimes exhibition folks come off as know it alls. Especially folks like NYREDS. But then NYREDS does know it all, or at least almost. He is an APA judge that has raised RIRs for decades. If I wanted advice on raising Reds, him and Bob Blosl would be the ones I would want to mentor me.

If we offended, we apologize. However, we can not apologize for what we said that was truth and fact.

 

[monnie662]

nevermind......life is too short to argue with people i have never even met.
i changed my smilie
HFF-really -here is a smilie

BTW-i DO raise SQ reds.

I do have LF RIRs and I was having a problem that involves RIRs and that is why I am on this forum with my problem because most RIRs people understand what I'm going through. Thanks Dinahmoe and Chris09. Last time I looked I do know how to read and also look up stuff so do not need to be chastised but I will make sure I do not upset the apple cart!!!!!!

 

[Chris Herzog]

nevermind......life is too short to argue with people i have never even met.
i changed my smilie
HFF-really -here is a smilie

BTW-i DO raise SQ reds.

Ditto

Chris

 

[Robert Blosl]

I was at work today and a lady had a appointment to see a dermatologist at 11 am. No buddy knew about it. The nurse on the weekend got a answering machine reminder this weekend and then told the social work and I come in and guess what. Nothing was done could not get transportation to take her to the doctor can celled appointment.

I remember a famous saying in Cool Hand Luke Movie. What we have here is a failure to Communicate. That is what happen here just a mix up and peoples feeling got hurt.

I read the threads about what got who and how to catch what. I sure cant help you I got my own problems All my chickens have to be above the ground and now I got to put them in one inch wire cages because something is getting through the 2x4 inch wire I have used for my pens for 15 years. Plus I got to friendly great horn Owls who if a chicken is out or near the edge of a pen they scare the bird so bad if he get out of the door hes dead. During the days its Hawks.

Killed three snakes this year that will get eggs and hurt little chicks . No more free range unless I am out there with them and have a loaded shot gun on my lap.

There is another great saying that a famous man said years ago he just drowned in his swimming pool. How he could afford a swimming pool in California I will never know.

It was Rodney King the guy that got beat up by the cops many years ago. He said. Cant we just GET along.

So as the guy who started this thread lets try to get back to the basics of Rhode Island Reds the dark dark ones. Let all the chicken folks that have the wonder full Cherry Eager's go to their sites. Lord knows I dont need to be on there I will have a stroke.

Went to a chicken swap at my local feed store this weekend when I was getting feed must of been twenty people out there with their favorite feathered chickens and ducks. Only saw one pick up with a good looking older fellow like my age and his grand daughter with some super nice silkies. If I had enough money in my pocket I would have bought all five of them. After buying the feed I was broke. All the rest of the feathered chickens where like the ones on the other threads on this forum.

If you get my drift so I got into my truck and headed home. I may be back in a month with my chickens to sell might get $5. for one that's all they are worth to these folks.

Buy the way New York Reds the last three chicks I hatched from your male is two pullets and one male. So I should have about 8 chicks out of him for the year. He is in a three by four pen with fresh shavings, one inch wire to protect him and ready for next breeding season.

Well lets get back to talking to Rhode Island Reds. Buy the way you folks who wont Mohawk vigor's chickens I mean they act like the are on uppers I know where ten are.

They are a cross from Illinois and Florida line. So if you need fresh new blood from this 100 year old line I can help you out.

Look forward to more pretty pictures like the ones on the board above me. I got a cock bird that is about a year old that has a finish on him like I have not seen in years. I will have to take a picture of him tomorrow and try to post it for you. He looks like a Mohawk male I had 25 years ago. see you latter. Lets all get along.

 

[ronniewayne]

just a quick thank you for keeping this thread going ...i am new to heritage rirs and so i will need this to learn how to cull and breed some sop chicks hopefully..so i dont care if we talk about problems with them or whatever but the little things do matter to those of us trying to get started in this great endeavor...

 

[catdaddyfro]

just a quick thank you for keeping this thread going ...i am new to heritage rirs and so i will need this to learn how to cull and breed some sop chicks hopefully..so i dont care if we talk about problems with them or whatever but the little things do matter to those of us trying to get started in this great endeavor...

Yes I agree right there with you too the little things do matter as a lot of little things can add up to BIG things esp when dealing with problems, for sure.

So lets keep this a civil site and not get a bunch of rigga-ma-roll going on that will send it down the tubes like some of the other good threads have gone in the past.

I think all that participate here on this thread are cognizant enough not to let a predator issue sentence or two lead it down an altogether different path than what it was intended for.


just sayin'

Jeff

 

[mississippifarmboy]

Ok, here's a question on RC RIRs for Bill, Bob, Chris, etc...

I've heard that the quickest feathering pullets are usually the best layers. Any truth to this statement? Also, does the same hold true for the cockerels that faster feathering has a desirable perk? I have 18 young birds left from my first hatch this spring. One cockerel that has my eye has almost a full tail already, he's the most active and a bit larger than all the others. I've only culled four of this batch, the rest are going to be grown out for some time yet. Might not even make the final cut until spring, but just wondering if I should take note of the only fast feathering cockerel in this hatch? (I have taken note already lol, just wondering if I SHOULD)

The four I culled already? One had a severe wry tail, one a very slight wry tail, one was a runt and the other was a pullet that looked like a red Orpington instead of the "brick" shaped type the SOP calls for. All four tasted just like chicken.

I'll try and get some pictures later.

 

[Robert Blosl]

When you are looking for early fast feathering birds you got to take other things into consideraton. I think all your chicks are the same age so you got a advantage to some of us who hatch say 5 or ten a week. We forget thier eggs becasue we dont have good methods of the date of hatch to compair.

Look for males that jump out in front of thier brothers. You will see one that really jumps out. Many times these guys are the best bird of the year. Look for the ones that start crowing first. Thats a good indicator and of course the females that start laying first. Some birds are slow to start laying and if you have four or six females that start laying in or around the same time and they have good type consider them for breeders.

I got 8 white rock cockerels and I have two that catch my eye they are young but they have a lean and racey look to them. I hope they are out of my four year old cock birds. I have two or three that look short bodied and two that have crapy combs. So I am going to get rid of them in the AM.

Got two Buff Brhama pullets that look like thier Grand Ma that I had four years ago round as a volley ball. They are going into a speical pen in the AM

Just remember take your time have two or three good males three to four good or the best females and next year you can hatch 15 to 10 chicks from each female.

This is a slow process to get your pullets to lay 200 eggs per year it took me five years. bob

 

[mississippifarmboy]

When you are looking for early fast feathering birds you got to take other things into consideraton. I think all your chicks are the same age so you got a advantage to some of us who hatch say 5 or ten a week. We forget thier eggs becasue we dont have good methods of the date of hatch to compair.

Look for males that jump out in front of thier brothers. You will see one that really jumps out. Many times these guys are the best bird of the year. Look for the ones that start crowing first. Thats a good indicator and of course the females that start laying first. Some birds are slow to start laying and if you have four or six females that start laying in or around the same time and they have good type consider them for breeders.

I got 8 white rock cockerels and I have two that catch my eye they are young but they have a lean and racey look to them. I hope they are out of my four year old cock birds. I have two or three that look short bodied and two that have crapy combs. So I am going to get rid of them in the AM.

Got two Buff Brhama pullets that look like thier Grand Ma that I had four years ago round as a volley ball. They are going into a speical pen in the AM

Just remember take your time have two or three good males three to four good or the best females and next year you can hatch 15 to 10 chicks from each female.

This is a slow process to get your pullets to lay 200 eggs per year it took me five years. bob

Thanks Bob. This one cockerel I mentioned has jumped in front of all the others. Already has good shape, a full tail (For a young bird) and just has that something that really makes him stand out of the crowd. I tried to get some pictures this afternoon, but the dang things wouldn't stand still, so I couldn't get any good pictures.

Here is the only picture I could get of him that isn't blurred, but you can at least see his feathering, color and build anyway.



Just a picture of some of his hatch mates.





This is more the development of the other cockerels.


The pullets are coming along too.



As far as laying, I didn't keep as good a records as I should have this year with everything I've had going on, but I'm thinking I got around 150 eggs per hen average. They just totally quit laying about a week ago though, got one egg yesterday. It's ok with me though as I sat the last batch of eggs for this year tonight.

 

[immyjay54]

Just a couple shots of a couple of my 8 week old Mohawks. Getting pretty nice. These two are from the second bunch that I got from Paul Gingerich.







Next are a couple shots of my 16 week old Don Nelson from Dinahmoe. Some seem to be loosing their tail feathers. lol



Took this shot to show feather quality on the pullets