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Here is a old tonic I thought I would put in here just for fun.

CHARLES HENRY HUBBARD,
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1915

I will now give you one of the best secrets I have. You will find this one of the best tonics and feather growers known. It is made in the following manner: Take five pounds of French Poultry Mustard and three pounds of sulfur. Mix thoroughly together by hand. Now take one tablespoonful of sulfate of iron, and dissolve it in a little water. When dissolved add it to one gallon of molasses and mix well together. Then pour the gallon of molasses over the sulfur and mustard, and mix all thoroughly with your hands to a thick paste. When this is done put into an earthen jar that has a cover. Keep the cover on at all times to keep the dust out. The above amount will last a breeder a long time as it will not spoil. The tonic should be fed in a mash to growing chickens after they are three months old. It does not make any difference what you use to wet your mash, whether it is water and liver, or clear water or milk. Dissolve one tablespoonful of the tonic in three quarts of the liquid you use to wet your mash. This should be fed in their mash for three days and then skip three days, until you have fed it nine days in each month. Start to feed it the first of each month, and after you have fed it in their mash nine days, as described above, for the rest of each month use in their wet mash one heaping tablespoonful of flax seed (not the meal), to every twelve growing chickens. There is nothing known that will beat this secret for growing length of feather, and putting on the high sheen which is wanted so much in the show room. Use the same method for molting out your old stock. They will put on their new feathers in a much shorter time and their plumage will be in the best possible condition. I have never seen anything to equal it for keeping young and old stock in prime condition.

Chris
 
I'm a bit confused with the brick body shape. I can see it at times, just trying to get some clarity. I need a ratio or a proportion......lets say the length is a 10, then is the height an 8? Or a 9? And then how wide across the breast should a good heritage RIR be? Now that I've seen some really good birds I totally see the attraction.
 
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I see if I can help with your questions.
There is some talk about "Rose Combs" breeds having fertility problems I have never seen it in my "Pure" Rose comb stock. My Rose combs have very good fertility in fact in the past 8 years I have been running around a 90% hatch rate and the other RC Red breeders I have talked to also say that the "Rose Combs breeds having fertility problems" is a bunch of hype. I think that most of her (the breeder you are talking about) problems might be do to improper breeding or even just a fluke.

As far as crossing Rose Comb with Single Comb, that is fine if you are not showing them OR you don't mind a long ongoing process when it comes to correcting there comb.
The combs of the offspring out of a Rose Comb/ Single Comb cross will suffer greatly in that they will have "Hollow Centers", Multiple Spikes, to much height of the over all comb, and over all poor combs. Back about 5 years ago I this cross with a superior Single comb cock bird that was out of pure Denis Myers stock that I had got off Jack Tickle and a excellent Rose comb hen that was pure Dick Horstman stock and to this day I still get bad combs now and then out of the offspring.

Chris

thanks thats what i needed to know... ill just cull hard and hatch bunches and keep alot of roosters just incase...
 
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I see if I can help with your questions.
There is some talk about "Rose Combs" breeds having fertility problems I have never seen it in my "Pure" Rose comb stock. My Rose combs have very good fertility in fact in the past 8 years I have been running around a 90% hatch rate and the other RC Red breeders I have talked to also say that the "Rose Combs breeds having fertility problems" is a bunch of hype. I think that most of her (the breeder you are talking about) problems might be do to improper breeding or even just a fluke.

As far as crossing Rose Comb with Single Comb, that is fine if you are not showing them OR you don't mind a long ongoing process when it comes to correcting there comb.
The combs of the offspring out of a Rose Comb/ Single Comb cross will suffer greatly in that they will have "Hollow Centers", Multiple Spikes, to much height of the over all comb, and over all poor combs. Back about 5 years ago I this cross with a superior Single comb cock bird that was out of pure Denis Myers stock that I had got off Jack Tickle and a excellent Rose comb hen that was pure Dick Horstman stock and to this day I still get bad combs now and then out of the offspring.

Chris

thanks thats what i needed to know... ill just cull hard and hatch bunches and keep alot of roosters just incase...

Just remember that the Rooster is the one that controls how good the offspring's comb is going to be.
Keep only Roosters with good combs..

Chris
 
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thanks thats what i needed to know... ill just cull hard and hatch bunches and keep alot of roosters just incase...

Just remember that the Rooster is the one that controls how good the offspring's comb is going to be.
Keep only Roosters with good combs..

Chris

ok another ??? anyone have a good pic of the comb on a RCRIR from the side and from the top??? that would help me chose what roo's to keep... thanks Elias
 
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Just remember that the Rooster is the one that controls how good the offspring's comb is going to be.
Keep only Roosters with good combs..

Chris

ok another ??? anyone have a good pic of the comb on a RCRIR from the side and from the top??? that would help me chose what roo's to keep... thanks Elias

This what you are looking for (but with about 1/2 the spike)-
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Chris
 
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