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Nice! This is a good example of the classic brick shape. Top is flat as a coffee table. Front end is straight down from the chin to the chest.
Wow! They are looking really nice!
Quote: Chris:: You to take baby steps in making these males. The tails can be made more fully furnished and shorter in time. You got to have the frame or the brick and the color which you all have done. Don't let them tell you to kill them. They will always find faults on a bird. I have faith this will be corrected but will take time .
The secret may be in the females with uniform tails with Tee Pee widths in the back like one of my favorite females that came from Illinois to Matt 1616 we called nock knee. Had one of the best tee pee tails I seen in years. Then inbreed these males back to them for three years and the tails in three years will be on the money by selection of the best male per year. You can also do this by breeding these top males back to her sister or aunt mattings. Have you seen the pictures of the R I Red bantams? Now there we have a mess to work with They don't seem to worry to much about those top lines. What is worst a Red Rock bantam pullet or a killer large fowl male with a little to much tail?
Chris, what I think is this. Some of the birds tail feathers have more curl to them and others stick out straighter making them look longer. Do you think this could be the main factor? If so, get with Matt and I''d bet he has a trick up his sleeve for that.
Chris, When I started working on the birds I got from Ricky's flock I would say that the female side was in much better shape than the male side. I think this was a blessing for me. I forced me to build up my male side from these good females. My original males had much longer tails than my current males, who have what I consider a medium tail. By using these females I believe it pulled the type back out on the male side. Good lesson learned as to the importance of both sides of the strain. Still have plenty of work to do, but that is the fun of this hobby. Not sure if I would like it as much if every bird hatched was an exact clone. Then there would be no need for me to take my old milk crate into a pen and sit for hours and select my breeders. Which is some mighty fine relaxation. By the way that old crate gets me down at just the right eye level. Ron