The Heritage Rhode Island Red Site

[Robert Blosl]

Hi Chris they are 100 % pure from birds I shared with Greg Chamniss of Illinois 13 years ago and Brian Simmons of Florida 17 years ago.Very happy with the birds. Both breeders have done a very good job keeping this very old line going.

Is your strain t still pure Dennis Meyers line.??? For those who dont know this line it is or was a Mohawk line. About 30 years ago Dennis got 25 chicks from Mr. E W Reese. He of course got his from Mrs. Donaldson around 1960 and she got started in 1912. The Dennis Meyers line was the only birds that are stil alive today that came from Mr. Reese in Geogia.

Mrs. Donaldson got Mohawk V from Maurice Wallace around 1929 or so. She also got her last new blood from Harold Tompkins around 1954 a great ckl.

Since then this strain has been breed with out any crosses or new blood. When Matt Crosses the Illinois and Florida birds this will be the first cross since 1954 and should give the
strain a good shot of fresh vigor. It is still the same line but birds that have been breed and raised over 1000 miles apart. I cant wait to see the off sping in a year. bob

 

[Chris09]

Hi Chris they are 100 % pure from birds I shared with Greg Chamniss of Illinois 13 years ago and Brian Simmons of Florida 17 years ago.Very happy with the birds. Both breeders have done a very good job keeping this very old line going.

Is your strain t still pure Dennis Meyers line.??? For those who dont know this line it is or was a Mohawk line. About 30 years ago Dennis got 25 chicks from Mr. E W Reese. He of course got his from Mrs. Donaldson around 1960 and she got started in 1912. The Dennis Meyers line was the only birds that are stil alive today that came from Mr. Reese in Geogia.

Mrs. Donaldson got Mohawk V from Maurice Wallace around 1929 or so. She also got her last new blood from Harold Tompkins around 1954 a great ckl.

Since then this strain has been breed with out any crosses or new blood. When Matt Crosses the Illinois and Florida birds this will be the first cross since 1954 and should give the
strain a good shot of fresh vigor. It is still the same line but birds that have been breed and raised over 1000 miles apart. I cant wait to see the off sping in a year. bob

Hi Bob,
My Single Comb Line consists of two 100% pure Dennis Meyers hen (direct from Dennis) and six hens and a rooster that are about 90% Denny's line and 10% Dick Horstman Rose Comb line.
Some time ago I got 3 SC hens off of Denny that he recommended putting under a RC Red rooster out of Dick's stock that I had.


My Rose Comb Line range from 100% pure Dick's stock to 75% Dick's and 25% Denny's SC line.

This young rooster is the one that Denny recommended putting over the 3 hens I got off him. (sorry about the bad picture, he was a little cramped in that pen)



Same young rooster on the ground,


Chris

 

[flowerchild59]

I have read through this thread again and it is full of so much valuable information. I finally made contact with Greg Chamness in Illinois and it turns out he lives about 40 miles from me

My husband has been wanting to get RIR's for several years and me, being the researcher I am, couldn't make up my mind about which breed to go with. I am so excited about getting the chicks from greg this spring.
Is anyone going to the heartland show in cape girardeau, Mo in March??? I can't wait to see the birds and meet some of the breeders.

 

[Robert Blosl]

http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-breeds/poultry-profiles/rhode-island-red-2.aspx

look at the Rhode Island Red Male from Matt Johns. Is this line 100% Dennis Meyers?

http://images.google.com/search?tbm...02l5679l0l7122l17l17l0l7l7l0l122l954l4.6l10l0

Next I was on Google and it said type subject for pictures. I typed in Rhode Island Reds. For you beginners who wonder what the real Rhode Island Reds look like look at the pictures. They are dominated by the egg laying variety aren't they. The Hobby Farms page is the first page that I have seen talk about the Rhode Island Red and have a picture of the original Red that is in the Standard of Perfection. In fact he is one heck of a male bird. Thought you would like to know and some day months from now when people ask what does a real Rhode Island Red look like show them this post. Its a real bird and not a painting in a catalog. bob

Chris thanks for the information. May others get some birds from you as they are true to breed. bob

 

[Chris09]

http://www.hobbyfarms.com/farm-breeds/poultry-profiles/rhode-island-red-2.aspx

look at the Rhode Island Red Male from Matt Johns. Is this line 100% Dennis Meyers?

http://images.google.com/search?tbm...02l5679l0l7122l17l17l0l7l7l0l122l954l4.6l10l0

Next I was on Google and it said type subject for pictures. I typed in Rhode Island Reds. For you beginners who wonder what the real Rhode Island Reds look like look at the pictures. They are dominated by the egg laying variety aren't they. The Hobby Farms page is the first page that I have seen talk about the Rhode Island Red and have a picture of the original Red that is in the Standard of Perfection. In fact he is one heck of a male bird. Thought you would like to know and some day months from now when people ask what does a real Rhode Island Red look like show them this post. Its a real bird and not a painting in a catalog. bob

Chris thanks for the information. May others get some birds from you as they are true to breed. bob

Bob,
Matt Johns old line of Rose Comb Red's were from Rick Bond, now I dont know if the Single Combs were from or crossed into Rick's stock or not.

I hope to be able to pass out some birds this year,as of now I have 50 chicks going to a poultry judge in P.A, another 25 chicks going to a poultry judge here in Ohio and I will be holding onto 50 or so chicks myself to grow out for 3 of my show strings this year.

Chris

 

[Robert Blosl]

Boy Chris you are busy with the orders. So glad you are sharing your birds with others. Do you have Single Combs or just Rose Combs?

I am looking forward to getting about four guys into the Mohawk line of large fowl this fall. We will have two males and three females to get them going. I am
going to pick and mate them up for Matt myself to make sure they will be good compensation matting. I have the Mohawk line of bantams and just got a order today for ten started chickes. I cant share many maybe 40 started chicks this year. Many think we sell hundreds of eggs and chicks to people. How can you do this with only five or six females. If you want to sell lots of chicks you have 15 to 20 females put three males in a pen and flock mate them. Then you can sell lots of eggs and chicks to people. The problem is you do not get quality you just get red chickens.

The Barred Rocks last year as well as the New Hampshires from Germany had a great rebound year. This year its Rhode Island Reds large fowl and Coloumbian Plymouth Rocks out of Canada.

We need to know one other thing out there who reads these threads. Who has Greg Chamness Rhode Island Red Large Fowl. Would you please post for us???

I have a family in Colorado and a famiy in Kansas that I have lost track of. Paul from Colorado do you read these threads if please let me know or send me a personel message.I have a fellow in Illinois and a fellow in Indiana that I know has his birds from last year.

Got to run and collect the eggs from the Bantam Mohawks. Bob

 

[Chris09]

Boy Chris you are busy with the orders. So glad you are sharing your birds with others. Do you have Single Combs or just Rose Combs?

I am looking forward to getting about four guys into the Mohawk line of large fowl this fall. We will have two males and three females to get them going. I am
going to pick and mate them up for Matt myself to make sure they will be good compensation matting. I have the Mohawk line of bantams and just got a order today for ten started chickes. I cant share many maybe 40 started chicks this year. Many think we sell hundreds of eggs and chicks to people. How can you do this with only five or six females. If you want to sell lots of chicks you have 15 to 20 females put three males in a pen and flock mate them. Then you can sell lots of eggs and chicks to people. The problem is you do not get quality you just get red chickens.

The Barred Rocks last year as well as the New Hampshires from Germany had a great rebound year. This year its Rhode Island Reds large fowl and Coloumbian Plymouth Rocks out of Canada.

We need to know one other thing out there who reads these threads. Who has Greg Chamness Rhode Island Red Large Fowl. Would you please post for us???

I have a family in Colorado and a famiy in Kansas that I have lost track of. Paul from Colorado do you read these threads if please let me know or send me a personel message.I have a fellow in Illinois and a fellow in Indiana that I know has his birds from last year.

Got to run and collect the eggs from the Bantam Mohawks. Bob

I have both Single and Rose Comb, the Single Comb line is 90% Denny's line of Single Comb Red's and 10% Dick Horstman Rose Comb Red's
They breed 99% true to comb type and are very nice birds when they mature.

I plan on getting some Large Fowl Barred, Silver Penciled and Partridge Rocks off of Dick Horstman this year along with some Dominique eggs off of Bill (NYReds) and try my hand at breeding these breeds along with increasing my breeding stock of Single and Rose Comb Reds.

Chris.

 

[NYREDS]

Iam in mornin today my old guy FAT CAT is gone he was 8yrs old an just not able to handle the fox i guess . he did save his girl she is also 8yrs old. he will be missed dearly. he was my first real RIR .

These are great pictures to illustrate both some strengths & weaknesses in Red type. Hope you don't mind my using your pictures for this purpose.
In the firsy picture the "brick" shape you look for in a Red is well displayed. He's really got a well developed breast. This picture also shows what I'd regard as a nearly perfect tail set as well as the kind of width of feather you want in a Red's tail.
In the second picture you can see that this bird carries the width of his body well back. He doesn't taper toward the rear.
The pictures also show a couple of common flaws that mant people tend to overlook. The comb is obviously pretty course but that's not what I want to call attention to. The side view shows a wing that's carried too low. The bottom of the primary feather should be paralell to the ground. In the front view you see a bird that is cow hocked. These 2 factors really take away from an otherwise pretty nice bird.

 

[X2Farm]

NYReds.. quick question re:confirmation on the RC RIR Cock pictured...

Would he be considered a bit short in body, needing some length front to back? (Just curious, for my own knowledge)

He is gorgeous. Sorry to hear of his passing Thea.

 

[Chris Herzog]

I have read through this thread again and it is full of so much valuable information.

I totally agree!

Thanks guy for posting all this great info so the rest of us can take advantage of all your knowledge and years of experience. Also thanks again Bob for answering all my questions in that PM I set you. Very informational and helpful. I do have a question for NYREDS. What does this mean "an early perfect tail set"?

Thanks again guys,
Chris