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[FOGELLY]

I would like to respond to those who have contacted me about the Ricky Bates line of birds that I own. There has been some concerns expressed by some of the people I helped get started this summer. Their concerns stem from well meaning comments made on this thread, that this line was crossed with Rose Comb RIR from another line.

I have been assured by several persons that are familar with origins of his line that Ricky aquired his birds from Andre St Romain's mother before she made the cross to the rose combs. Ricky's line was and remains the pure old line that the St Romain's started with.

Almost two years ago, while seeking where to get some quality Heritage RIR, I was on another website where Mr Blosl directed me to contact Ricky. Sadly when I called him I was informed of his passing. Later Jacob Bates sold me the last of Ricky's LF RIR.


Bob thank you for your help and advise on everything from a breeding plan to what to look for when making my choices with breeders. I saved several of your emails, and refer to them regularly.


It really is enjoyable to work with these beautiful birds and I will continue do my best to keep this line going.

Ron

 

[grsday]

I'm in North Carolina. Bob has been trying to help me. He was trying to locate that fellow in North Carolina that got 50 of Mr. Bennet's chicks for me. I'd love to get some from Mr. Bennett himself or Greg Chamness, but as long as I can get some of the Mohawk's from the Reese line I'll be happy. Those are the ones that I have really set my sites on. So any help I can get in locating some would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Robert Blosl]

I heard from my friend in North Carolina who had got 50 chicks from Mr. Bennett he has many very good birds to share with you who live in his region. He needs to reduce down by 50% so that is very good news.

I need to clear up one thing. When I mention that there are very few people who breed these old time reds I am talking about people with between 15 and 20 years experience. There are a few who have about ten years experience and maybe five or so that have five years experience and still got them. That is good in my view. There are maybe 10 who have had them for one to three years. They still have some good birds and its going to be up to these folks who just got started to share their birds with the beginners and many of these breeders who have been around for a long time are booked up all ready to late spring or they may not be able to provide you with your needs. So during the next thee to five months if you want to get some of these old time birds share them with your friends on this board. I dont know how else you can get on a list unless you share with others. Dont worry about breeding them to a Standard or if you show them you will be a embarrassment to your self. Just enjoy the breed and the birds. The main reason many of these beginners are no longer raising there Reds is they are not having fun any more or cant afford them in this economy.

If you go to a fair you may not see anything like this as most of the Rhode Island Reds are the kind you get at the feed stores. I hope you can see how rare these old breeds are. I got to ease up on trying to help every person who comes along wanting these old breeds as I am not a broker to help them find the birds. I am going to spend some time on trying to find out how to breed rare breeds of poultry for color and put it in some format so the beginners of the future will have some of the methods used by the present or past masters of the breed.

Now I hope you can share your birds with others. If you have a incubator I hope its a good one and if you get eggs from someone they have a chance to hatch. Good luck to you all this winter in locating your Rhode Island Reds for next year.

 

[mrheinz77]

I'm newer to this thread and haven't seen much stated about Mr. Underwood's line. I'm assuming when I saw the Illinois line mentioned it referred to Mohawks and not his line. Is anybody able to share any pros and cons on Mr. Underwood's line. I have both SC and RC from his line. Thank you for your time.

 

[diriel]

@Bob,

I would like to get in line to thank you for all that you do, and all that you have announced you will do for the "Community"! Last night I got to reading your Java Breeding 101 parts 1 & 2. I must say they helped me understand some things! Well written, comprehensive, and to the point. I will very much look forward to reading more of your writings sir.

Thank you,
Gary

 

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I have sent you a pm I live in Wilmington NC. I have some trios to give you a start. They are from the Rademacker line. Also, know of someone that may have some from another excellent line. He doesn't want to sell until around Dec. The birds that I'm talking about here are all of excellent type from quaility Heritage RIR blood lines, and will make good breeders to start with.
We both only have a very limited number of birds at this time. email [email protected]
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[monnie662]

I want to ask all the knowledgeable Heritage Red breeders, is there a way to tell if a rooster is full heritage or from a hatchery RIR. Thanks.

 

[Fred's Hens]

I want to ask all the knowledgeable Heritage Red breeders, is there a way to tell if a rooster is full heritage or from a hatchery RIR. Thanks.

Are you asking about the rooster in your avatar?

 

[cmom]

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Ditto. Where did you get him from? I have purchased birds from shows where I was told what line they were decedents of. I also bought eggs. The first set of eggs were definitely not what they were supposed to be but the last eggs were and the chicks hatched out exactly like they should have. Since then I am on my 3rd generation of the line I have. I am hoping to get more birds at the Lake City, Florida Sunshine Classic show that are decedents of the same line as my current birds are.

 

[monnie662]

Ditto. Where did you get him from? I have purchased birds from shows where I was told what line they were decedents of. I also bought eggs. The first set of eggs were definitely not what they were supposed to be but the last eggs were and the chicks hatched out exactly like they should have. Since then I am on my 3rd generation of the line I have. I am hoping to get more birds at the Lake City, Florida Sunshine Classic show that are decedents of the same line as my current birds are.

Are you asking about the rooster in your avatar?

No, this was my rooster but a predator got him. This would be his son that my neighbor has hatched and he is a big boy too. But when I gave him eggs the eggs were hatchery RIRs and my heritage RIR hen and they were not separated. He will let me have the young rooster if I want him but if he is half hatchery I do not want or need him. I was wondering if there is any particular markings etc that would tell me what I want to know. The gentleman told me one day when I saw him that rooster don't look like it is going to stop growing. So since I am roosterless I would take this one back if it was going to be heritage. Thanks for your help.