mine are definately NOT very bright.. but what they lack in that they seem to make up for in friendliness! my little silkies can boss these big girls around if they want toI never doubted her English origins. I was just wondering that the not so bright genes she has (also my Jubilees from 2 different sources have), whether they are limited to English breeds only or other Orpingtons that have American blood carry those genes as well.