The Legbar Thread!

[ChicKat]

The lethal gene in araucanas generally comes from mating 2 tufted birda. It acts like the creeper gene in Japanese bantams.

I have had great hatches so far, just too many boys. We tried the temp thing with no differences. We did have an incubator mishap thos week though, temp got to 103. I was sure they would all be dead, tbey are due this wednesday. Well at day 15 we had a sumatra hatch, then day 16 we had a couple legbars hatch. Then yesterday a few phoenix hatched, all the eggs still look alive which is a good thing!

Also, anyone remember the black chick with a white spot and stripes I hatched awhile back? Well, he looks blue barred ( like legbar rooster breast blue barring) but all over with no sign of color. I might keep him for a bit, he has fair type so far

Thanks flying,
for the insights...... I agree there would be no tufted corelation --> LOL

Interesting about the heat and the early hatching. Good luck.
Yep, you need to post photos of the rooster...... just sayin' ;O)

 

[TNBarnQueen]

Wow, well there's one experience against the theory. Have you tried lowering your incubator temp a degree? I mean, since you're not raising the boys anyway...

I do swear by this theory. I have been incubating at 99 for a year now and my roo percentage is around 15%. In fact I have to look for roos sometimes. (Now watch this next hatch be all roos

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It is worth trying a couple hatches like that. It may add a half day to your hatch time but it is worth it to not have so many males.

 

[GaryDean26]

What is your hatch rate at 99 deg?

 

[starlingdaly]

So sorry that the power failure came when it did.  Glad that you have some hope for at least 1 CL.  

Well d*mn it, the last chick died during the night. It pipped that evening and was very vocal and I was so hopeful but when it hadn't hatched by morning I took a closer look and couldn't see any breathing and the pip looked strange so I candled and sure enough. :/
Upon eggtopsy, there wasn't any sign of a problem, so I guess it was just too weak from the temperature drop.

On the other hand, I did a hatch recently from my own eggs that I set the temperature as 98.5-100.5 and I only had 3 or 4 roos out of 14 eggs. My hatch rate was 100% of all viable eggs, though it is worth noting that one of the chicks needed assistance hatching and had some minor deformities which I can only assume is the reason it died a few days later. His feet were malformed and his head had an odd shape to it that caused one eye to be higher than the other. We called him Mumble because of his chick shoes and late hatching.

 

[normanack]

Well d*mn it, the last chick died during the night. It pipped that evening and was very vocal and I was so hopeful but when it hadn't hatched by morning I took a closer look and couldn't see any breathing and the pip looked strange so I candled and sure enough.

Upon eggtopsy, there wasn't any sign of a problem, so I guess it was just too weak from the temperature drop.

On the other hand, I did a hatch recently from my own eggs that I set the temperature as 98.5-100.5 and I only had 3 or 4 roos out of 14 eggs. My hatch rate was 100% of all viable eggs, though it is worth noting that one of the chicks needed assistance hatching and had some minor deformities which I can only assume is the reason it died a few days later. His feet were malformed and his head had an odd shape to it that caused one eye to be higher than the other. We called him Mumble because of his chick shoes and late hatching.

I'm so sorry! :-(

Question about "not right" chicks: What have you all experienced for a general hatch percentage of "not right" chicks? (Not including dead-in-shell or other pre-hatch mishaps.)

I'm defining "not right" as any of these:

1. needs assistance to hatch (if you have assisted in hatching)
2. physical deformity
3. leg problems (slipped tendon, curled toes, etc.)
4. neurological problems (lack of balance, etc.)
5. vision problems

This is my first year hatching (mostly not CLs). Out of about 30 that made it to hatch, I (or my daughter) assisted two (not CLs). We put both down: one had progressively bad neurological problems, and the other was lacking a foot. Hands off for us from now on.

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

Here is the cockerel that hatched out black & yellow. I think I might take him to the swap on sunday and try to find him a non breeding home

 

[elliechooks]

This is the only one I've managed to hatch, and he has slightly curled feet. Other than that do you think he looks ok? He's about 8 weeks old now.

 

[normanack]

Here is the cockerel that hatched out black & yellow. I think I might take him to the swap on sunday and try to find him a non breeding home

Is this the yellowish chick in post 4417?

 

[GaryDean26]

I'm so sorry! :-(

Question about "not right" chicks: What have you all experienced for a general hatch percentage of "not right" chicks? (Not including dead-in-shell or other pre-hatch mishaps.)

I'm defining "not right" as any of these:

1. needs assistance to hatch (if you have assisted in hatching)
2. physical deformity
3. leg problems (slipped tendon, curled toes, etc.)
4. neurological problems (lack of balance, etc.)
5. vision problems

This is my first year hatching (mostly not CLs). Out of about 30 that made it to hatch, I (or my daughter) assisted two (not CLs). We put both down: one had progressively bad neurological problems, and the other was lacking a foot. Hands off for us from now on.

1) We have assisted around 5% of our hatches

2) None to date

3) None at hatch, but one chick we had shipped to us developed symptoms that we think were Mareks at about 10 weeks old and he lost use of his legs (Yes, he was vaccinated for Mareks)

4) We had a cockerel from shipped hatching eggs with the lack of balance. He was the only one from his hatch and haven't see it from any other hatches.

5) I am really not sure on this. My wife was sure that one particular cockerel was near sighted but observing him over the past year he seems to have unimpaired visions to me. Others could be in the same category. I don't really know how to administer the chicken vision sight test.

 

[starlingdaly]

I'm so sorry! :-(

Question about "not right" chicks: What have you all experienced for a general hatch percentage of "not right" chicks? (Not including dead-in-shell or other pre-hatch mishaps.)

I'm defining "not right" as any of these:

1. needs assistance to hatch (if you have assisted in hatching)
2. physical deformity
3. leg problems (slipped tendon, curled toes, etc.)
4. neurological problems (lack of balance, etc.)
5. vision problems

This is my first year hatching (mostly not CLs). Out of about 30 that made it to hatch, I (or my daughter) assisted two (not CLs). We put both down: one had progressively bad neurological problems, and the other was lacking a foot. Hands off for us from now on.

In my very limited experience, it seems that shipped eggs have highest incidence of deformities. Every batch of shipped eggs I've done, at least one chick, usually more, have weird feet or strange belly buttons.
The belly button ones seem to usually die after a day of two. The feet are fixable, though I am having trouble correcting a twisted ankle on a blue BCM (hatched from black BCM eggs) and he did need assistance hatching but I think it was my fault because the humidity dropped to 50% and his pip may have dried out a bit so he had trouble making progress with zipping.
The ankle, though, I'm sure is because his egg went through the postal system.
I recently hatched some black/blue Ameraucanas and all of them (even dead in the shell chicks and eggs that died as early as day 14) had one foot extended and outstretched beside their head while the other was in the normal curled fashion. I thought they were all going to need chick shoes but after bumbling around in the hatcher for a while, they worked their kinks out.

So to answer your question, with shipped eggs I seem to be getting around 10-15% hatching "not right" though a smaller percentage (0-5%?) with my own eggs.